Mushroom Kingdom's OG Woo Meister
I agree. I think it's what we call "boomer" comedy. It's on par with "Mario is the real villain" and it actually coincides and makes the jokes worse. It's so obvious, predictable, lazy, juvenile, narrowly-scoped but it's used so often because the general audience understands it almost immediately. There's also my massive peeve on how references other media make about Mario is very frequently on the original arcade game and Super Mario Bros., and it's the same problem of general audience. Wake me up when we get a joke of Yoshi riding on horses, Mario Party being violent, Mario and friends' ridiculous branding in their world via sponsors, Mario and friends idea of volleyball involves flying spaceships and violent wrestling, or Mario smuggling alligators for his soccer games, because even at minimal effort, they're still more original.This goes beyond pet peeve but Mario on drugs jokes aren't funny. Anybody who makes them is a hack with comedy.
I wasn't thinking about his stubborness, I was thinking more he just sits there and has other people talk for him. It feels like a weirdly passive role for someone who's supposed to be a main hero and driving the story.Mario isn't dumb, he's just a bit stubborn.
I always see Mario as more of a "no nonsense" person who wants to get things done and fast. He just doesn't seem like a reflective person. And to be fair, I don't think Peach is really empty, she's just passive. But she still has some personality, she's nice and polite, regal. But in Paper Mario and in Thousand-Year Door, she manages to be rebellious and courageous, being integral to sabotaging Bowser in both games, and remain in character, which I think is a better way to show how Peach can fight back without making her aggressive (unlike Super Mario Adventures).I personally can see Mario's personality. It's not as extravagant as Luigi's, sure, but it's still there. Like, a small detail I always notice is Mario always has more of an angrier expression compared to Luigi. (Best seen with the M&L series) The true empty character is Peach.
Oh and I got one: I hate dumb Mario shippings. We've got Luigi x Wario, Luigi x Bowser, Mario x Dr. Mario, Dr. Mario x Mr. L, Mr. L x Luigi, ect.
I lied another one is making Luigi gay. I understand where it's coming from but I personally dislike it. Because once we make him gay we're not gonna stop there nono he needs to want to be a GIRLLL. OML I'm triggering myself...
Stubborn is so negative, how about hard willed.
I don't have a real strong opinion on relationshipping (in desperate attempt to avoid boat jokes). I think they're ultimately harmless, but I can imagine even the joke ones can get pretty grating when it's proposed often.
Everyone in the Marioverse is ace. Just, full stop. It's my pet peeve when people confuse sexual attraction/sexuality with romantic attraction especially in discussion involving "family-friendly" characters, and it just casts asexual people under a shadow. And I guess it's also good to bring up a pet peeve when people think Rosalina needs a partner when she doesn't need one.
Yeah, I've been arguing that positive traits just tend to be overlooked or downplayed, so hence I argue those traits Mario has should STILL be considered personality. And it's not fair to Mario when the rest of the cast really aren't much better. This overlooking of positive traits also seems to apply to Peach, too, actually. She doesn't have the backstory that Rosalina has. Daisy is... well,I don't think people say much about her personality, but I also disagree that Daisy has no personality.From what I see, Mario's personality mainly revolves around positive qualities rather than flawed ones (examples: Luigi has fear, Wario has greed and Waluigi has jealousy), and I guess people consider positive traits as bland?
In case you don't know how Nintendo outlined Mario's personality, here's a reference from a 1993 guidebook. Although it has been many years since, the fact that nothing in the recent years contradicted the information below shows that Mario's personality is more or less consistent.
When people use Paper Mario artwork in completely unrelated memes, or in anything where they just want to reference the Mario series in general and probably don't even know about the Paper Mario series.
I think Paper Mario in an irrelevant meme would be indicative of at least laziness of a joke, lending to cheapness and poor impressions of a joke; it detracts from the meme. If you can't bother researching what Paper Mario is, I can't imagine the joke to be any better.it being Paper Mario doesn't change anything, you should be more concerned over the quality and originality of these jokes