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  • I've seen the internet react to AI art (especially those that win art contests), saying it's not "real" art + modern art "sucks" and all I'm saying is that we're just seeing a repeat of when emerging new technology threatens the old and reignites those arguments again. Back then, when photography was new, it threatened traditional realistic painting and people were very terrified that it would eventually replace actual artists. This eventually gave arise to more abstract art such as impressionism, dadaism, surrealism, but almost single art movement in history spurred from a reaction to either emergent technologies or as a reaction to established art (ie academy art). The same thing happened when computers arose and so did digital art, as well as 3D modeling. People have argued about intent and how all you do is push buttons on a prompt to generate an image, which means all human manipulation is gone, but it really isn't much different than back then in 1917 where Marcel Duchampe plastered up a urinal and called it a sculpture or when an artist defecated into a can and made a piece called "Artist's Shit", or when Jackson Pollock splattered paint all over a canvas, or when John Chamberlain glued car pieces together with welding techniques and insisted that there is no deeper meaning other than they are just car pieces glued together. Even earlier before the rise of realism, when gritty realism of common life was new, that caused an uproar when it challenged the romanticism (ie perfect venuses and idealized aristocracy) of academy art.

    All I'm saying is that I think the dismissal of AI art because it doesn't follow our traditional mindset of what art is is (such as arbitrary boundaries intent...which is debatable because AI art does have an intent or the extent of the human element into an image) just par of the course for general art for whenever there is a new art direction. I do think the ethical concerns of it are valid when money is involved (it's practically automation vs humans argument) and corporations will probably try to replace human artists with robots, but I simply don't agree that AI art isn't "real" art. I don't necessarily like "modern" art (such as shock art or taping a banana on a wall) but it's still very fascinating to see where that notion all came from and usually, artists who do shock art are very likely very good at traditional art but are just rebelling against the system. In fact, I'd argue that because AI art stoked the "what is art" argument pretty passionately, I think it should join the ranks of impressionism, Van "I was never popular when I was alive and everyone hated my art" Gogh's post-impressionism, surrealism, Dada, modernism, etc. as art because it fulfills the criteria of "causing uproar among people on what is art".

    Not going to defend all AI art. Some people do it because they think they're smug and more self-important than they really are. And I understand the controversy behind it winning art contests against other genres. But AI art isn't going away and I think the controversy it generates will likely just give rise to a new art movement of some sort, and I think we'll learn to eventually accept it, just as we did with photography and we learned photography is a legit art when time went on, AI art will likely develop similar techniques of human manipulation under its belt.

    BTW, I know nothing about musical history but I'll guarantee you that electronic instruments and MiDi very likely caused an uproar with musicians too.
    GIR
    GIR
    Also, I don't consider Daft Punk to be autotune. Personally, I've always thought that they were robots singing songs.
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    They actually do use autotune to give the robotic feel, that's one of the positive perks of it I like seeing used for.
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    zelen !!
    zelen !!
    ai art can be fun to heck around it but im really iffy about it bc artists Can lose their jobs because of it and because of businesses being awful
    You and @Ignazio Salvaggi each order a Mini Mario toy from eBay. The packages arrive, you open them and... sike! They were actually Mini Wario's!

    What do you two do now with your toys?
    @Waluigi Time @winstein @Bill Cipher @Rohan Kishibe @Dr. R. Bushroot @Flygon64

    I'd personally like to express my heartfelt gratitude to each of you for taking the free time to draw/render my characters for this fantastic awards show. I adore seeing other people's interpretations of them and how it's viewed through the lens of another person always fascinates me.

    I'd also like to thank the community for voting Ray Trace as the third most popular community character (he is third in command of the Protectors after all, and his trophy is the bronzest, shiniest, most third place of all trophies), he's been my passion design and it really means a lot to me to see him have a good reception in this community.
    Man my opinion on diet soda took a large turn.

    I legit love the stuff, especially for a chronic soda drinker such as myself. It's a way I can enjoy fizzy, sweet beverages without having to worry much about extreme sugar counts. Plus diabetic people can enjoy it without ill consequences.
    I LOVE TO SPEND MY SPARE TIME REINSTALLING WINDOWS!!!11!!!

    and then reinstalling all programs I had! :) :D ;)
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    Basically, whenever I booted up the computer, it would stick to a "Please Wait..." screen for like, five minutes, and it wouldn't install any new updates because of it.
    Spooky Sweetie Belle
    Spooky Sweetie Belle
    Is it good now?

    Did you lose your data or do you have personal data on a different partition?
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    It's good now! No data was lost, Windows even backed up my old programs file in a Windows.old folder in my C drive, but I have to reinstall literally a lot of stuff (because whenever you install stuff it makes edits to the registry and what not so you can't simply click and drag folders of old apps onto the new installation). I think I could just move files from the windows.old folder to the new folder once successfully installed.
    don’t tell ray trace I said this but

    blu is the best protector 😍
    Flying on the Fourth of July is an absolute magical experience, especially when you're landing, holy shit. I greatly implore everyone on here to fly on the 4th of July and arrive on an airport by 9pm at least once in their lifetime, the LA county was literally flickering with lights like a Christmas tree, the explosions little more than tiny little pinpricks, and it's across the entire county nonstop, for miles on end.
    do you feel anything being the creator of the poll that was airing during the Will Smith slap
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    Not really no. The only notable thing I remember about the slap is the fact that the media immediately dropped the Ukraine war to talk about it and how it annoyed me.
    Nico di Angelo
    Nico di Angelo
    To be fair it was a really iconic event and an interesting one, but it isn't good to cover it for several days. I just hate when for example the media has a legitimate chance to make a case against Trump on policy like his tax cuts for the rich and how he signed an executive order trying to punish companies for censoring any content no matter how horrible it is but they only talk about his affairs or other things still important but not as much.
    Transphobes deserve to live in a power outage and water capped off without internet for a week straight.
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    They do deserve freedom like everyone else (unless you meant the freedom to say hate speech in this case, nah, they should shut the fuck up), but they should also be made to suffer inconveniences that make our lives slightly worse and more annoying.
    Nico di Angelo
    Nico di Angelo
    I feel like outright penalizing someone through law just for saying something bigoted is not good because of freedom of speech, but you should not be frowned upon for telling them to piss off, no matter how much they resort to “I think *insert blatantly intolerant comment here* but won’t judge you if you don’t” to try to look more reasonable than they actually are.
    Door Trace
    Door Trace
    Yeah nah they deserve power outages for a week.
    It's been decided: I'm taking a week off this community.

    I love you guys, thanks for exposing and weeding out toxic members, and best luck of you. I will be fine, rest-assured, I'm not under any depressive episode, so please don't worry about me and continue having fun and enjoying life, but I need to spend time not interacting with people on the internet.
    why are car washes so terrifying to me, like i legit had nightmares about the tunnel and the loud noises from the bigass fans and the moving parts as a child. even seeing those fans puts me a bit on my nerve lol
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