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  • It's interesting how there are so many Mario Kart imitators, yet there are far fewer Mario Party imitators. There were some contenders throughout the years like Sonic Shuffle (made by the same folks that handled Mario Party), Pac-Man Party and Disney Party (and to a lesser extent Crash Bash). The sheer number of Mario Kart imitator lead to more Kart racing games with quality, as we've seen with Crash and Sonic Racing (not to be confused with Sonic R).

    Because of the lack of long-running Mario Party imitators, Mario Party is still the undisputed king of party games that marry board game and a mini-game collection.

    (Yet we still haven't got a interactive element like a stage or item from Mario Party in Smash Bros)
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    Captain Man
    Captain Man
    *Cough* Sonic Shuffle *Cough*
    winstein
    winstein
    First of all, Sonic Shuffle is the first and last Sonic party game, so it's not all that long-running. If you are referring to the quality of Sonic Shuffle, while I can see some of the things that Sonic Shuffle did well, such as the story mode and the tried-and-true minigames, it also has several flaws that cannot be ignored, namely the long loading times and AI that can predict unrevealed cards.

    So what do you feel Sonic Shuffle did better than Mario Party as to mention it in coughs?
    NanoPhoenix
    NanoPhoenix
    Sonic and the Secret Rings also had a Mario Party-esque side mode.
    Even though Waluigi has already enjoyed getting a lot of appearances in games, I still feel grateful whenever Waluigi gets to appear in a new game. It's also fortunate that he appeared early enough that he's a guaranteed inclusion in the roster, such as in the Mario & Sonic games and the Mario Party games. Some cases like Mario Kart 7 was unfortunate though.

    My reasoning is due to how unique of a status Waluigi is. He's never appeared in a Super Mario (main series) game, but he's appeared far more often than a lot of characters that first appeared in Super Mario, so much so that he could feasibly stand beside the other main Mario characters. Moreover, spin-offs aren't inherently something to dismiss because they are complimentary, not derogatory to the main series. Unlike most of the characters that regularly appear in spin-offs, Waluigi gets to be something a lot of characters don't get a chance to be: playable. Yes, being playable improves the appeal of the character especially if the video game is fun, which is the case for most Mario games.

    I suppose it's true when they say that Waluigi is hardworking: he may not have the privileges that many characters have (appears in Super Mario), nor does he appear in a game that is treated with importance (RPGs, character-focused series like Yoshi and Wario, and Super Mario), but he still has frequent playable appearances where he shows his character (here's where the "hardworking" part comes in) and I felt that it payed of.

    Seeing how Waluigi gets a lot of push back when it comes to Wario and being playable in Smash only made my case clear. Sure there are people who didn't like Waluigi as to enjoy his exclusion, but at the same time the existence of detractors means that the appeal of the character is large enough to have them, as evidenced by those who actually like the character! It's unfortunate that there are quite a few people who were verbally uncool with Waluigi's unplayability in Smash, which I was disappointed with because it provided detractors ammunition to strengthen their case. Similarly there's Daisy who get a lot of dislike, but still, I do not wish for that to happen to other people's favourites like Rosalina, Geno or Fawful.

    It's a bizarre thing for me to mention, maybe even lampoonable, but I just have to get it out there.
    I recently learned that both Garfield and Space Invaders debut on the same month: June 1978. There isn't a specific day mentioned for Space Invaders unfortunately, but Garfield debut on the 19th of that month. It's amazing because within the history of newspaper comics, Garfield is somewhat younger than the middle of the timeline, but Space Invaders is practically early in the timeline of video games.
    Doomhiker
    Doomhiker
    Not only that but Space Invaders is an extremely well-known video game, like with Garfield being an extremely well-known comic strip. I would not be surprised if they were some of the most-well known pieces of their respective mediums, even for people with do not generally follow video games or newspaper comics.
    It's fascinating that despite being one of the main characters, Jon is bereft of the merchandising blitz that Garfield and his animal friends received. It's another way Jon is the opposite of Garfield, since he's relatively free of merchandising. I know Jon is not exactly the most appealing character in terms of design, probably because he might not look that great in 3D. Even Wario and Waluigi have official plushies and figurines despite their more "ugly" design! At most he's got a few figurines though.
    winstein
    winstein
    Perhaps the publishers had the right idea to focus everything on Garfield when Jim Davis pitched the comic strip idea to them. Basically the comic strip was intended to be named after Jon himself while Garfield was meant to be the exciting side character, but they wanted Garfield to be the titular character because he was meant to be the exciting one. The result is that he became the reason the comic strip is marketable worldwide.

    Even then Jon is still around and active as ever, so the spirit of what Jim Davis wanted to do is still found in the comic strip.
    MS06Magma
    MS06Magma
    When the early "Jon" strip became "Garfield" I don't think the comic itself really changed. They've both been sort of co-main characters since the beginning really.

    Captain Man
    Captain Man
    Jon will always be my favorite since I found out I share my birthday with both him and Garfield.
    I can't tell if Peach is analogous to either Manny Mouse of the X-Mickey comics or Eurasia Toft of some of the Mickey Mouse comics, since Peach was a replacement of the Mario's original girlfriend Pauline (who I would say is analogous to Minnie Mouse). Manny Mouse is essentially a recolour of Minnie Mouse with some slight differences, while Eurasia Toft is a taller and more human-like figure that shares the same species as the hero. Images of Manny and Eurasia respectively:



    (Side note: X-Mickey also has a Goofy-lookalike who is a werewolf)
    SiFi
    SiFi
    I didn't know about either of these until now, but for what it's worth, Manny looking so much like Minnie reminds me of the similarities between Peach and Lady.
    This was a thread I made years ago: https://www.marioboards.com/threads/35001/

    But somehow a zygote/foetus analogy gets mentioned in relation to Mario, like as though Donkey Kong is unworthy of being treated as an important hallmark for Mario. I think times has changed now that Mario is proud to reference his Donkey Kong origins.

    (Forgot to mention that even Captain Toad is proud to reference Donkey Kong compared to even Mario at that time, until I think Super Mario Odyssey)
    For just the reason of loving Mario reciting video game titles (such as Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Odyssey and Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour), sometimes I like to imagine it if a game has Mario as the main character saying the game's title. Some example (even though the original game doesn't necessarily have the character reciting them):
    - "Mario and the Pirate's Curse!"
    - "Mario Unleashed!"
    - "Mario's Mansion!"
    - "MarioWare Incorporated! Mega Microgame-ses!"
    - "Mario Raving Rabbids!"
    Apologies for the lack of responses, but a sickness got in the way starting from last Friday (2/8/2019), and this one felt severe (dengue fever). I can't say I have fully recuperated yet, but I am hoping that my health life goes back on track not long after that.
    Redshift
    Redshift
    Hope you get better soon. Best regards.
    winstein
    winstein
    I didn't post about this for a while because I don't want anybody to worry about it, which is why when I am almost assuredly getting well, then I went ahead and post about it. I suppose there's no such timing when it comes to somebody who isn't quite well.

    Blood check was something I did do twice, and the results was that the condition wasn't in critical (although still it still needed taking care of). So one of the things it's important to do is to keep hydrated because when the blood got too thick, that's the worst part since that requires hospitalisation where water injection will be necessary. Hydration is ideally done through coconut water or any water with minerals like isotonic drink.
    Smg2daisy
    Smg2daisy
    Yes, coconut water. And 100 Plus. You can get well soon at this rate~
    Maybe you're aware already, but have you ever checked out this repository for obscure manga? There's some obscure Mario manga hosted here. It's a really fun site to browse, not just for Mario fans. I think it already interested some wiki editors. Ganbare Mario and Dr. Mario-Kun are my favorites so far.
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    winstein
    winstein
    I have seen that website, but didn't quite delve into many of the works. I do know of the Kart manga here. Something that just caught my eye was the Earthbound (MOTHER 2) being drawn in the same style as that Plumber Peach artwork (do you know what I mean?).

    Manga Shrek is welcomed weirdness also, mainly because it's nice to see Shrek that's not some weird pun/sex icon.


    Seems like Captain Toad for Switch is free for a week (5 Aug to 12 Aug), provided that you have access to a Japanese account to download the game, plus have an active Nintendo Switch Online subscription. I would likely take advantage of this privilege by basically rushing through the game, since I am yet to play the new Odyssey-based levels. Unfortunately I don't have a Wedding Mario/Peach/Bowser amiibo so I can't unlock those levels immediately.

    I don't think the DLC levels are available, which is a shame.

    Thank you for reading.

    P.S.: I have already created a Marioverse thread about this.
    I like that Nintendo acknowledge that Mario came from Donkey Kong (arcade) in 1981, instead of implying that Super Mario Bros. was when Mario truly began. I like to think that when Metro Kingdom references Mario's arcade past, and also that Nintendo released the Donkey Kong (arcade) game on the Switch, they could refer to Donkey Kong as Mario's true origin.



    (Odd that Mario Bros.' sprite is based on the NES version rather than the Arcade version, though)

    Thank you for reading.
    Princess Mario
    Princess Mario
    How does it make you feel how the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia kinda characterized the games between 1981 and 1985 as "destined for the bargain bin"? I can provide the full quote if you think I might be misrepresenting what they said.
    winstein
    winstein
    Is that the exact wording, or is it the spirit of the term?

    In any case, given that this Encyclopedia is meant to be an official accounting of the history of Mario, it seems to me that the book didn't quite like the thought that Mario has a life before Super Mario Bros, and I find that unfortunate because what Mario has achieved before that game is the reason we even have the most defining game in the first place.

    On the other hand, the games before SMB are comparatively simple by design like how they tend to be high score games so I can see what they meant, even if I felt that it's misleading since at the very least Donkey Kong is a brilliantly-designed game and it sounded to me like they didn't appreciate the company-saving game. I hope that with how the Arcade Archives proudly allowing the original DK arcade game to be played (and being referenced in general), they won't treat their older games like old shames.

    (I will stop using that phrase because of the 1000 character limit)
    Princess Mario
    Princess Mario
    (Thank you for reading)

    Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia said:
    BEFORE HE WAS SUPER
    Before Super Mario Bros. took the world by storm, there was a period of time when it could have been in the bargain bins. Back then, Mario appeared in arcade games and the Game & Watch, among others, and we'll tell you about those humble beginnings here.
    They said that the original Mario Bros. served as the building block for Super Mario Bros., however, so that's some credit for these games?
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