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  • It's pretty amazing that Pokemon Sword/Shield is sparse on the news, plus how there's the fact that there aren't any reliable leaks besides one or two that appeared before E3. Contrast that to Pokemon Sun/Moon where it seems like news on those games are quite abundant. What I am saying is that Pokemon Sword and Shield are the most tight-lipped games yet, in terms of pre-release information.

    This is ironic to me because I wanted to avoid spoilers from Sun/Moon as much as possible, since I planned to get one of the games (although that didn't work out fully). Since I don't plan to get Sword/Shield, I wanted to know as much of the games as I can, but it seems that the Pokemon team has a different plan in mind.

    Not that I mind them keeping things closer to their chest. In fact, I prefer this approach. This ensures that the players can delve into the games without as much of an expectation, which I haven't really felt since Generation 3. In that Generation, it was such a nice feeling to find out how Torchic evolved into a Fire/Fighting type, and I miss that sort of feeling.

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    Inkboy
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    I kept seeing a Pokemon Sword/Shield commercial

    this game is so popular that it has a commercial
    no switch games have commercials now for some reason
    Inkboy
    Inkboy
    I play Pokemon a lot, Pokemon is one of my favorite Nintendo franchises
    winstein
    winstein
    This... is not what I meant when I said this. Basically what I mean is that unlike past Generations, information on the Pokemon, the moves and the world are not as frequent as this one. In fact, this is the first Generation where the starters' evolutions weren't revealed before the release date, and in fact they're revealed AFTER the release date.

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    Are there any character whose description is scary, but they are in practice, not as scary as their description made them out to be? For me, that description falls to The Delightful Children Down the Lane (Codename: Kids Next Door).



    In case you aren't aware of what they are, they are basically five children with varying descriptions, but they have a very cold demanour. Plus, they operate like a single entity like a hive mind. Not to mention: they talk in unison most of the time. Their uniforms (and one kid's helmet) are also somehow embedded to them, as if it's part of their body. In other words, they are different children that transformed into something that operates everything together.

    Despite the description, they are somehow funny when depicted in the animated show, although they still have the element of horror regardless (including their sadistic tendencies).

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    Striker Mario
    I just think they sound the same, and that makes them both hilarious and horrifying.
    If Mario founded a company to counter WarioWare, wouldn't it be "MarioMart"?
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    MarioMart seems to be evocative of Mario selling far more than games, similar to places like Wal-Mart. I suppose it could work by virtue of the alliteration, and if that's so, then it should also have a title with "Mega Microgames" somehow. So: "MarioMart Inc. Mega Microgames".

    Even then, I kind of got used to the name "MarioWare". I even made a verse for MarioWare (which was posted earlier in this timeline, but here it is again):

    It's Marioware Incorporated Mega Microgame-ses!
    And we have lots of game-ses that covers all the bases,
    You can find them, buy them all wherever near your places!
    Marioware Incorporated Mega Microgame-ses!

    (Recite this like "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious")

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    Something I have noticed about Pokemon is that there are no Pokemon hacks for Gen 4 onward that insert custom-made Pokemon. As an example of a Pokemon hack that inserted custom-made Pokemon, look no further than Touhoumon, which was a hack of Pokemon FireRed (a Gen 3 game). The Pokemon hacks of later generations are mostly data manipulation such as trainer's Pokemon, encounter pool and item rewards, and to a far lesser extent (if there ever were one) bug fixes.

    Instead, it seems that fans who wanted to make their own Pokemon prefers to do it through fan games, because I guess it's simpler to insert their own Pokemon this way, and it doesn't have to conform to drawing in 3D or animating sprites that later games in the series would do. Pokemon Zeta/Omicron is based on Generation 5 with a few Gen 6 stuff thrown in, but it lacked animated sprites or any sort of 3D effects.

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    pretty much! there's not really the same level of developed hacking tools that allows for completely replacing pokemon, or making new maps from scratch. so the hacking scene sticks to the GB/GBC/GBA games
    winstein
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    The GB part is ironic to me mainly because Pokemon for the GB is so broken that people are able to hack it without hacking software.

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    Striker Mario
    Striker Mario
    I made some mockup sprites of Mario characters as Pokemon and I'd be stoked if I could make that childhood a reality.

    btw there's saltysd for Pokemon X/Y which is pretty neat since it's a file direct hack that makes rom hacking so much easier; the only other game saltysd is used is in smash 3ds and that's fun; I wonder if there are funny mods for that one
    Whenever I have my grievances with a game that I played, and in the case I want to air them, I always imagine if this is something I want to say to the developers. If the answer is yes, then it would certainly be said by me. I might also word it in a more diplomatic or tactful way, as otherwise I might as well not mention it.

    A lot of ways people expressed their grievances is certainly something I don't really feel comfortable with, and in a few ways, I felt it's also pretty unreasonable. Sometimes I even wonder if they would want to say what they said to the developers themselves! An example of this is the recent criticisms on the latest Pokemon games.

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    winstein
    winstein
    Personally I prefer to say what I like about something because I do know that compliments are very encouraging. It's not like everybody set out to do the worst thing ever, after all. I don't usually make criticisms without them unless I have some bias on that thing. Even in criticism, it certainly helps to give a good explanation using proper language (instead of one of those profane words the people like to use) because it makes it easy to understand, so rather than saying something is s***, it helps to say why I am not fond of something. Certainly some people find the direct word to be better for expression, but I prefer the challenge of taking a deeper look and describing it, since that is more constructive.

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    Ray Trace
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    As professionals, I'm pretty sure the developers have faced countless criticisms in their entire career. After all, they far to the point of having professional paying jobs, so their entire life prior to that (and even now) is nothing but "here's how your art/music/programming can be better"
    Striker Mario
    Striker Mario
    Well if you need any sort of explanation for why developers can't do as they should in the Pokemon games (regarding the recent national dex situation), I can always try to explain that stuff in detail so you know how you detect Koopa krud in arguments. Well, actually, the job has been done. you can see here and here which I understand completely but if you need anything broken down you can ask. What to take from this? Well, it's always important you acquire knowledge of the thing you're criticizing. That way, you're more capable of taking that deeper look and being more constructive.
    If Wario started marketing WarioWear, what do you think are the products that'll be advertised?
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    - Hats that chafe when worn
    - Clothes with short leggings because Wario has short legs
    - Wario noses because he just loves to put them everywhere
    - Elf shoes because apparently Wario just loves pointy shoes
    - Garlic-scented socks, as though socks aren't already smelling enough

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    Something I appreciate with the Baby Mario characters is how they are logically incorporated in the games, with the appeal of merchandising as a bonus though I don't know if there is heavy merchandising on that front. I mean, in Yoshi's Island you have the excuse of bringing Baby Mario to the safety of the crane while defeating Kamek and Baby Bowser. Whereas most other Baby version of characters are either: 1) merchandising due to the appeal of babies (such as Baby Mickey and Baby Popeye) or 2) a retread of the original concept (Tom & Jerry Kids comes to mind).

    What I am saying is playing as baby version of main characters is far more appealing than just showing baby versions of main characters doing baby things.

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    Wallop
    Wallop
    I like that they're their own dads
    Ray Trace
    Ray Trace
    I am the Baby Mario Bros's most passionate fan so I can tell you all about it. A major reason why I'm even a fan of them to begin with is the juxtaposition of them racing against their adult counterparts in a race track...and WINNING against them. idk, I tend to like stupid ideas and concepts (you should have seen me react towards a random Piranha Plant playable in Smash) so having literal babies drive karts against adults greatly appeals to me, and I was a fan of Luigi to begin with so I just adored Baby Luigi. The beastly demon Chain Chomp that bowls over victims and the simple, yet chaotic and violent race-track of theirs were just icing on cakes.

    I kinda wish Baby Mario and Baby Luigi did badass stuff again. Have them commandeer man-eating Chain Chomps again or make them violent or whatever juxtaposed upon them being cute little innocent babies. Kicking alien ass while using Pocket Chomps and Hammers are so freaking cool too.

    I think the babies have a decent amount merchandising proportional to their appearances in Mario games because I do agree that they are marketable. Hell, I think they got a San-ei plushie first before Daisy did (though it took a while until Baby Daisy and Baby Rosalina arrived). It's not really that heavy merchandise though...you're not going to find merchandise of Baby Mario and Baby Luigi in brick and mortar stores here in the US...if they did I'd own them a long time ago.
    Striker Mario
    Striker Mario
    There is merch of Baby Mario and Baby Luigi in brick and mortar. Just not often at all. If there is it's usually just minor things like those bobble-head styluses, Mario Kart racer (like that Baby Mario on a Biddybuggy), and maybe the Jakks Pacific plush.
    With the Olympics drawing near, it's time to express my unpopular opinion: I am fond of Wenlock and Mandeville as Olympic mascots, yet I find Misha the Bear to be creepy.

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    Mario: Aw, everybody cheating!
    Luigi: Oh no! Hurry up!
    Peach: Have a rotten day (*raspberries*)!
    Daisy: Wa-ha-ha-waaaaa!
    Wario: Multiply!
    Waluigi: Open salami!
    Toad: Bingo! Oh ho ho ho!
    Toadette: You're lousy!
    Rosalina: Nana nana, nanana. Sorry.

    How do you read these lines?

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    Namco's offerings tend to have this sort of thing where their games have references from other games throughout the history, and the feeling I get is that their properties all take place in the same universe when those little references are pretty common and freely done.

    Like for example, Pac-man has a Galaxian bonus, Klonoa has the Pac-man logo on the titular character's cap, and then there's Mr. Driller who is basically the successor of Dig Dug given the main character is the son of the main character of both Dig Dug and Baraduke.

    Namco may not be as big as Nintendo or SEGA, but I admire the sense of coherence and camaraderie in their properties.

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    winstein
    winstein
    Don't forget Hudson, but unfortunately, they were absorbed by Konami. At least Super Bomberman R made lots of cool references to other Konami properties!

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    Striker Mario
    Striker Mario
    What about the Mario Baseball games, aren't those Namco property?
    winstein
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    If Mario Baseball is published by Nintendo, then I can see that it doesn't have room for some neat Namco cameos or references. Compare this to Mario Kart Arcade GP, which are indeed published by Namco and what do you know? That game has Namco characters!

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    Wouldn't it be great if Mario characters actually directly interacted with each other more often? I did talk about how characters should be able to make unique reactions for each character. The most we've got was characters groaning about Wario farting in Mario Strikers Charged and Fortune Street where we got a wealth of character interactions like "Boo! That’s a bad Kong!! A very bad Kong!" and "You owe me one, Luigi! Take good care of all my gold, ya big galoot!"
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    If there were to be anything other than a video game, I can see interaction taking priority, and that would be lovely. Unfortunately, Mario doesn't have any active ones besides Super Mario-kun, and even then I am disappointed that only the famous characters are favoured (eg: Mario & Luigi, Mario & Wario, Bowser & Bowser Jr.). It's the main reason I am not particularly fond of the approach taken in RPGs where the only major players are Mario, Peach, Bowser, Toad and Luigi, and while the writers did some neat stuff with them, I just want another regular character to keep things interesting.

    In fact, I would really love it if the other regular characters interacted with each other more, like for example, Mario & Waluigi, Daisy & Bowser Jr., Donkey Kong & Peach and so on. Fortune Street is brilliant mainly because of this, and I wish there's another game involving Mario characters for this reason (plus, we would get new Dragon Quest characters interacting with them like Sylvando of DQ11).

    I wonder if the quantity of Mario characters would make things difficult. Taking a game where character interaction is one of the high points: Mickey's Speedway USA (N64), that game has few playable characters that include the main 6 except Pluto, Pete, the Duck triplets and Von Drake (yes, more than half of them are ducks), they were able to do this which is why it's really cool. I would really appreciate it if the developers go the extra mile though, like for example if Mario Tennis Aces have this as a feature it would make the game even better than Power Tour (yes I said it).

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    Wallop
    Wallop
    I'd be pretty happy if they even just added quip dialogue before & after matches/rounds
    Do you miss the days where Mario was sometimes prominently an announcer for things? Well, I can think of only three games where Mario is an announcer: Mario Kart 64, Mario Tennis 64, and that one Pac-Man game. But in all three, it's always very fun to listen to, and I think it adds quite a bit of charm, a wacky Mario flavor to the game. "Charm" is often poorly defined, but I can say it just brightens the mood a lot. Certainly, it's something, and the announcers in the later Mario Tennis games just lacked that weirdness and bias Mario showed (like when he fondly says "Luigi" in Mario Tennis).
    winstein
    winstein
    The more Mario voice acting, the better. It's the reason I am an unpopular advocate for Mario voicing the title of the games, like Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario Odyssey. It might be just me, but I get the feeling that Mario's voice acting might be difficult to do it as an announcer, which is typically a booming type of acting (see: Smash Bros. series). Actually you know what, let's make Daisy's voice actor the announcer, since Martinet already has many roles and Kelly's already voicing Toad. It's not like women can't make powerful announcers.

    You know what, let's just go all the way and make every Mario character say something.

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    I miss the days where Mario was still a plumber and came from Brooklyn rather than this New Donk garbage :^(.
    Sometimes viewing things from another perspective could really help. For example, there are a lot of people who derive pleasure in the cynical distortion of Garfield and how it seems like the default (seems like a strong case of irony poisoning), and that makes me sad, but I reminded myself that there are also people who actually (as in, not ironically) like Garfield, to keep my mind off the "half-empty portion of the glass".

    Actually, this applies to many things I like because I often feel that I am fond of the less popular side of things, so in a sense I felt isolated. Even when the topic is about Mario this is the case.

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    Do you ever think the Year of Luigi was a pretty sub-par marketing tool to promote only one character? It appeared to be a good opportunity to elevate Daisy and Waluigi, two characters that appear to interact with Luigi quite a bit! But it didn't happen. We could've seen Daisy platforming with Luigi (I mean we got Daisy in Super Mario Run), Waluigi trying to sabotage the movement. Even Baby Luigi had an opportunity to get a bigger role in Yoshi's New Island, which came out around that time. But ultimately, I always thought it fizzled.
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    I think so. It felt like the whole thing isn't planned far ahead beyond just focusing on Luigi. I guess they wanted to raise the profile of Luigi? Despite this, I felt that Luigi is already well taken care of so it's not like he's in dire need of such an event. I get the feeling that it's mainly for the fans of the character since they are most happy about it (which is not for me since I am not a fan of Luigi).

    Knowing that the Year of Luigi was set up mainly because there are a number of games releasing that year featuring Luigi prominently (Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, New Super Luigi U and Luigi's Mansion 2) enlightened me over the matter. To wit, the impression I get is that this event is set up on the last minute to capitalise on a character that many people liked, but it also means that games that were already in development didn't get any last minute changes to reflect on this. As you mentioned, Yoshi's New Island never put Baby Luigi as a significant. In fact, I have a feeling that only games with a smaller scale like Dr. Luigi and Luigi Bros. (Super Mario 3D World) were made following that event.

    In fact, even though it only happens once a year, Mario Day felt like a bigger event than the whole of the Year of Luigi, since it felt like a better celebration of a character (and also because it can happen for years to come, so it's not as much of a footnote in history).

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    There are some music in games that would be like "This is the one that everybody will remember!", especially when you hear it at first glance. In my case, the one that comes to mind are Gourmet Race from Kirby Super Star, You're Not Alone from Final Fantasy IX and Splattack! from Splatoon 1.

    However, some of the themes didn't catch my attention as something to remember by, so it seems a bit strange when it was the theme that people remember best. In my case, Forest Maze of Super Mario RPG comes to mind. Stickerbrush Symphony is another example only because I first heard it in isolation from the game that played it.

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    Striker Mario
    Striker Mario
    Diddy Kong Racing and the first Rayman game had a lot of that. Also Super Mario 3D Land's main theme was exactly that. I also instantly remembered some of Mario + Rabbids themes.
    Something that I immediately took notice when watching Kirby 64's cutscenes is not only how there's no spoken word in the cutscenes, but also how it showed Kirby's comedic side, such as how he hallucinated his friends as food, and how he took out a mobile phone out of nowhere.

    In fact, this is what I really love about those Kirby games that does this, which includes not only from Kirby 64, but Kirby 3 also did this. The most recent game that I can think of that has this sort of presentation is Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, which is as close in tone to the numbered Kirby games as we could get.

    In terms of the modern standard platformers, I think Triple Deluxe is the closest to that tone (but still far from what Rainbow Curse achieved) because I don't remember there being dialogue in that game, and the game has a much simpler superpower (Hypernova).

    (Also, Kirby's animal friends and Adelaine should return more often)

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    Sometimes I wonder if reclusive artists made the right choice in being secretive and outside of the public eye. The issue I noticed with more sociable artists is that they are more easily judged by their character compared to the reclusive artists, so much so that other people's enjoyment of their work are affected by them.

    The inverse (artist with praiseworthy character raising others' opinion on their work) so far doesn't seem to be a famous case as far as I know. I mean, I personally have an example that I could name but I imagine the detractors would feel otherwise.

    Makes me think that artists are better off private because there are seemingly better benefits with that decision.

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    Here's something silly I came up with, inspired by this video (about Mario singing "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious").

    It's Marioware Incorporated Mega Microgame-ses!
    And we have lots of game-ses that covers all the bases,
    You can find them, buy them all wherever near your places!
    Marioware Incorporated Mega Microgame-ses!

    Um Wahoo Hoo-hoo Yahoo, um Let's-a-go!
    Um Wahoo Hoo-hoo Yahoo, um Let's-a-go!
    Um Wahoo Hoo-hoo Yahoo, um Let's-a-go!
    Um Wahoo Hoo-hoo Yahoo, um Let's-a-go!

    (I forgot how the second part sounded like so I put in a bit of guesswork with the original lyrics here)

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    Here's a preview on what I am working on, and in the vein of the current avatar I have now, there will be a digital rendition of the picture I have drawn to be used as an avatar. Do pardon how unsightly this looks since I didn't like how scanned images of drawn pictures turned out.



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    I get a kick out of renaming titles that replaces "M" with "W" and vice versa, since the naming of Wario in relation to Mario is my favourite renaming for an "evil" variation of a character, and certainly more original than adding "Evil" or "Nega" to the character's name.

    So here are some examples:
    - Winecraft
    - The Legend of Zelda: Mind Maker
    - Mild Gunman
    - Super Wario Waker
    I don't know if it's common or if it's normal, but I seem to be able to recall how I learned a good number of the words I have learned.

    Here are some examples:
    - Revive: Super Mario RPG has this word
    - Heinous: Pokemon Leaf Green, a word describing Team Rocket
    - Purloin: A Pokemon called "Purrloin" comes from this word
    - Hyperventilate: Garfield comic strip on 14th July 2002
    - Conceal: Medabots GBA RPG, a support type that increases evasion
    - Inert: Bejeweled Twist, which is the description given to rock pieces since they cannot be destroyed through matching them
    - Retire: Sonic R's choice of word if a player wants to end a race
    - Convenient: I learned this word on computer class during primary school for typing lessons, and the word struck out to be because the "venie" part of the word reminded me of "genie"
    - Goliath: Worms World Party; there is a mode called "David vs Goliath", where one worm start with high HP while the rest start with little HP.
    - Prominence: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance; This is one of the Illusionist' attacks, who specialises in hitting every enemy on the field with magic. This is the fire-elemental one
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    Turboo
    I learned the word "ostensibly" from The Thousand-Year Door when Frankly is talking about the Glitz Pit
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    when i got to the level mine cart carnage in donkey kong country, i had never heard the word carnage before, so i asked my dad what it meant... he told me "excitement". i guess he thought i was too young to be allowed to know the real definition?? i went on believing that for many years

    this is only partially related but the other day i was replaying tomb raider 4 and when i heard lara say the line "this place gives me the creeps. after you" i had a brief flashback to being like 5 and never having heard the expression "after you" before. i think back then i thought she was saying "this place gives me the creeps, but you're creepier" (the person she's with is in fact fairly creepy)
    I've posed a question to a few parties, which is the question of whether Sonic or Garfield got it worse in public perception. The majority of people who answered the question gone with Sonic, such as this Tumblr post. From what I have seen, only one person believed Garfield got it worse than Sonic if his reasoning were to be believed ("Garfield has always long been a symbol of selling out Even by big name artists"). The general reasoning is that Sonic's inconsistency, leading to a community that doesn't agree with the things they enjoyed with the character.

    Even then, I still can't shake the feeling that Garfield got it worse because from what I have seen on the internet there appeared to have more visible appreciative fan art on Sonic while Garfield's more visible fan art are more of "anti-fan art", not to mention how Garfield's Twitter is plagued with unpleasant posts (it stopped getting regular posts, which I attribute it to that) that don't know how to keep it to themselves, while Sonic's Twitter has an overall more pleasant community.
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    Moon
    There's a lot of Sonic positivity on Twitter and Tumblr, if anything, the fans there hate that the Twitter had to be ironically mocking to get it's fame, it really doesn't help that the large reason for the hate is bandwagoning, people who are simply trying to be cool and never actually played the games they bash, hmm, why would the edgelord society of meme makers and funny men hate a franchise with a huge autistic fanbase? As far as the other fans go, they're over perfectionist who think the franchise making a single mistake is doom, seriously, I am going to bet once the new game has one flaw, that forum I used to go to is going into rage mode. That's just the dumb reasons to hate, Sonic indeed has bad games but I feel it's way overblown.

    But despite that, I think Garf has it worse, even positivity post tend to be ironic, Garfield and Friends and the specials tend to be flat out ignored despite being funny, well animated and even touching at points
    That being said, Garfield parodies are legitmatly funny as they have more than 3 jokes that are "Sonic has bad games!" "I don't like Sonic friends!" and " Sonic fans make recolors and fetish art!", seriously, I got compared to a terrible person after transitioning because we're both trans and Sonic fans.
    I do hope Nickelodeon will revive good will to the brand with their new cartoon, the Originals shorts, possible new movie and hopefully keeping the HD remaster of Garfield and Friends from Boomerang
    Sometimes I wonder why people are more aware of the breadth of SEGA's IPs compared to Nintendo's IPs, even though the latter lasted longer. What I mean is, yes, SEGA is best known for Sonic and to a lesser extent Puyo Puyo and Yakuza, but people are also aware of their other IPs like NiGHTs, Jet Set Radio, Virtua Fighter and Panzer Dragoon. In fact, there is a Wikipedia page that chronicles all of SEGA's IPs.

    Nintendo on the other hand, had at one time got a complaint that they never made new IPs since Pikmin before Splatoon surprised people with its success that even convinced its naysayers. That is a misnomer given how many types of IPs they got out even between 2001 and 2015. Rhythm Heaven and Brain Age are among a few IPs that Nintendo had during those times, not to mention how overlooked the success of the Wii IP was. Of course there's also including famous ones like Mario, Legend of Zelda and Pokemon. In fact, this page chronicled a list of over 200 items in the list so it's not as if they are having a shortage of them, despite not every one of them reaching the heights of their best ones.

    I suppose this is one thing that Smash does very well: it puts a lot of Nintendo's history into the spotlight, and while not every IP is represented by a playable character, they are still there to educate us on the amount of IPs that Nintendo do have.
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    I felt I need to post a follow up on this: I think that one reason for people being more aware of SEGA's other IPs have to do with their tendency to release compilation of their games. For example, there's the SEGA Smash Pack, which has a few collections and each of them contain a Sonic game, probably to make things more attractive. From there, people will be made aware of the games SEGA made, so obscure stuff like Columns, Vectorman and Flicky gets some spotlight.

    Nintendo doesn't seem to do that, since I don't recall them doing this as widely as SEGA. I can recall the Super Mario Bros. + Duck Hunt compilation but that's about it.
    For a very long time I have a disdain for people being passionate about voice actors that the idea of having one is a bad thing. I remembered that I got a warning on Bulbagarden forums because I commented that I liked the voice of a particular Pokemon in the Best Wishes anime. I should probably provide context on this because it would seem like a strange idea to most of you: back then the Pokemon anime had a mass replacement of voice actors that it became a sensitive topic. Apparently commenting on a voice of a character is a hot topic meaning that even though I only received a warning, it soured me on the idea of voice acting in shows because I am rather touchy on the idea of receiving infractions. (NOTE: Commenting on voice acting as a prohibition at Bulbagarden was already lifted by now)

    There is also a case when a particular cartoonist had rejected the notion of his characters being voiced, claiming that the reason was basically that the reader's imagination of the character's voice would be "robbed". That plus the above gave me the impression that voice acting is a scourge to the enjoyment of a show. It's one reason that until now I never heard the any Friendship is Magic characters speak even though I have seen the animation. At times I wondered if a show could succeed without a need for voice acting because it seems that voice actors bring in the most money, and they even have a higher salary on average!



    That's not to say that I held this belief for a long time, because I suppose it's based on irrational reaction. For one, I never knew for a long time that Hagar the Horrible has an animated series, and I always imagined that he has a very deep booming voice. When I checked out the animated series, I was surprised that he has a very rough voice that's not as deep as I thought, and I liked this. Another example is that it took me some time to overcome a mental block to check out Steven Universe and I think I appreciate the voice acting of that show. Even the cartoonist's particular work has a parody sketch on Robot Chicken, but because there were no official voices, I found the voices given to his characters to be quite perfect!

    Sometimes I still think that it's ridiculous for fans to latch on to their favourite voice actors while I thought of myself as free from this, but some reflection on my part revealed that I might not be so different, because I would have a character I would prefer to stick with a particular voice. And that character is none other than Mario (I bet you saw that coming, don't you?)! Although Mario has a number of voice actors over the years, when Martinet's gave a high-pitched Italian accent to Mario, it really felt like a perfect match.

    So yes, it doesn't sound like much but it's mystifying to me that the success of an animated show hinges on voice acting. Especially because to me an animated series is best enjoyed for its stylish animation over the voice acting.

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    Uniju
    Uniju
    i think the fact that voice actors(and actors in live action works) get paid so much and their inclusion in a work is such a big part of the marketing is just a result of the fact they're very "visible" and, i'm not sure what word to use, irreplaceable? an animator might put in a ridiculous amount of work to a show but at the end of the day only an incredibly small, hardcore nerd fraction of the audience is going to notice any stylistic differences between different animators, letting go of one isn't going to change the show very much so they don't have much opportunity to negotiate for better pay, compared to voice actors who are very hard to replace because the viewers immediately recognize their voice, especially if they're a voice actor who's already very popular. this is an inherent flaw in our current economic system and the only way to fix it is to completely dismantle capitalism

    if you haven't already(i don't see it on your mal but idk if that's up to date), i highly recommend that you watch shirobako
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