My Suggestions for SSB4

Thanks for your SM, (Villain 11, will not going to hit the pikmin series for a long time, I'm going by series.) now onto the next topic.

Series: Mario

Daisy: Unlockable
She will make a good character for the next Super Smash Bros. game, but I can’t think of a standard special for her. Make her faster, slightly stronger (standard and special attacks), and slightly heavier then Peach. Daisy’s battle entrance can be her “blooming” out of a daisy flower, hence her name. I have an idea for one of Daisy’s alternate color dresses; her alternate color (most likely her red alternate color) can make her look like Peach (since pink is a lighter shade of red). Daisy should have alternate outfits like Wario but she has six outfits, her first outfit is her dress, the second one is in her athletic outfit (since she is lately seen wearing her athletic outfit more often), her biker suit, her Super Mario Strikers outfit, her Mario Strikers Charged outfit, and finally her ice skating outfit, this is a little out there but probably if she enters a stage with icy floors, ice skating blades can come out of her boots (if she is wearing the ice skating outfit) and when she is not on an icy floor her ice skating blades disappear from her boots, this just makes her walk on ice easier with less chances if slipping and she goes faster. Her side smash attack can probably be ramming her head into opponents like what she does in the striker series; she can also give spike damage to her opponents because of her crown.

Daisy’s Side Special: Daisy Bomber
It will be exactly like Peach Bomber except when she hits an opponent, instead of hearts, daisies will appear instead. It’s also slightly stronger and faster then Peach Bomber and it goes slightly farther.

Daisy’s Down Special: Daisy Bomb
It will be similar to Yoshi Bomb but hers does more damage and has more throwback, and when the move is executed, it is done slightly slower, compared to Yoshi Bomb. Also the animation is different from Yoshi’s, instead of her slamming her butt to the ground, she slams her feet to the ground. Probably the animation can look similar to Peach’s ground pound in Super Paper Mario when she uses Thudely.

Daisy’s Up Special: Daisy Parasol
This attack works like Peach Parasol but it goes on an upward direction when used and is as powerful as Luigi’s Super Jump Punch. This is how it works, if Daisy uses this move and it hit someone it does 3% damage but if it is done to an opponent at point blank range it will do about 30% of damage. On a side note Daisy’s parasol besides being colored orange and yellow it also has a daisy flower design on it.

Daisy’s Final Smash: Crystal Smash!
This is based off Daisy’s super ability from Mario Strikers Charged. This final smash can only be performed on the ground, but if she is in the air she will quickly go down to the ground damaging opponents from going down and from the crystals coming up, so the player have to be careful not to activate the Final Smash while being over a pit or an abyss. So this is what is going to happen, Daisy will all sudden change into her outfit from Mario Strikers Charged (if she is not wearing it) and then she will jump up (if on the ground) and go down and pound the ground with her fist then the crystals will come out and damage opponents on the ground and on the air depending how low they are.

Though these moves sound lame and generic, still discuss.
 
That's fine if your a fan of clones. As unless some of her A moves are based on the moves in the Spin-Offs she isn't going to be a popular choice. If you truly want to portray Daisy as not a clone you'd have to say goodbye to the dress and have her athletic suit as the default costume it may not have her where she is iconically known but at least it would at the most lessen the fingers pointing "CLONE!!!!!"

Daisy has about the same chance as Waluigi being playable in an SSB game. Saying that it's not a good chance is an understatement. But we're here not to flame/put down your choices but to think on how they'd be implemented. So this is all "If Daisy was playable"

I think I'll stick around a little more for this thread, I've always digged Smash Talk since I joined the internet. Bunch of experience for discussions. If it wasn't for Brawl I would have never joined Mariowiki/Userpedia/etc.
 
That what I think also when I read this, most of the moves sound lame and generic - like I said - ,there's only tiny bits of originality in a few of them, but scattered
 
Nunnally vi Britannia said:
Thanks for your SM, (Villain 11, will not going to hit the pikmin series for a long time, I'm going by series.) now onto the next topic.

Series: Mario

Daisy: Unlockable
She will make a good character for the next Super Smash Bros. game, but I can’t think of a standard special for her. Make her faster, slightly stronger (standard and special attacks), and slightly heavier then Peach. Daisy’s battle entrance can be her “blooming” out of a daisy flower, hence her name. I have an idea for one of Daisy’s alternate color dresses; her alternate color (most likely her red alternate color) can make her look like Peach (since pink is a lighter shade of red). Daisy should have alternate outfits like Wario but she has six outfits, her first outfit is her dress, the second one is in her athletic outfit (since she is lately seen wearing her athletic outfit more often), her biker suit, her Super Mario Strikers outfit, her Mario Strikers Charged outfit, and finally her ice skating outfit, this is a little out there but probably if she enters a stage with icy floors, ice skating blades can come out of her boots (if she is wearing the ice skating outfit) and when she is not on an icy floor her ice skating blades disappear from her boots, this just makes her walk on ice easier with less chances if slipping and she goes faster. Her side smash attack can probably be ramming her head into opponents like what she does in the striker series; she can also give spike damage to her opponents because of her crown.

Daisy’s Side Special: Daisy Bomber
It will be exactly like Peach Bomber except when she hits an opponent, instead of hearts, daisies will appear instead. It’s also slightly stronger and faster then Peach Bomber and it goes slightly farther.

Daisy’s Down Special: Daisy Bomb
It will be similar to Yoshi Bomb but hers does more damage and has more throwback, and when the move is executed, it is done slightly slower, compared to Yoshi Bomb. Also the animation is different from Yoshi’s, instead of her slamming her butt to the ground, she slams her feet to the ground. Probably the animation can look similar to Peach’s ground pound in Super Paper Mario when she uses Thudely.

Daisy’s Up Special: Daisy Parasol
This attack works like Peach Parasol but it goes on an upward direction when used and is as powerful as Luigi’s Super Jump Punch. This is how it works, if Daisy uses this move and it hit someone it does 3% damage but if it is done to an opponent at point blank range it will do about 30% of damage. On a side note Daisy’s parasol besides being colored orange and yellow it also has a daisy flower design on it.

Daisy’s Final Smash: Crystal Smash!
This is based off Daisy’s super ability from Mario Strikers Charged. This final smash can only be performed on the ground, but if she is in the air she will quickly go down to the ground damaging opponents from going down and from the crystals coming up, so the player have to be careful not to activate the Final Smash while being over a pit or an abyss. So this is what is going to happen, Daisy will all sudden change into her outfit from Mario Strikers Charged (if she is not wearing it) and then she will jump up (if on the ground) and go down and pound the ground with her fist then the crystals will come out and damage opponents on the ground and on the air depending how low they are.

Though these moves sound lame and generic, still discuss.
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I give a no to, Daisy. She would just be to similar to peach.
 
drseaweed said:
Nunnally vi Britannia said:
Thanks for your SM, (Villain 11, will not going to hit the pikmin series for a long time, I'm going by series.) now onto the next topic.

Series: Mario

Daisy: Unlockable
She will make a good character for the next Super Smash Bros. game, but I can’t think of a standard special for her. Make her faster, slightly stronger (standard and special attacks), and slightly heavier then Peach. Daisy’s battle entrance can be her “blooming” out of a daisy flower, hence her name. I have an idea for one of Daisy’s alternate color dresses; her alternate color (most likely her red alternate color) can make her look like Peach (since pink is a lighter shade of red). Daisy should have alternate outfits like Wario but she has six outfits, her first outfit is her dress, the second one is in her athletic outfit (since she is lately seen wearing her athletic outfit more often), her biker suit, her Super Mario Strikers outfit, her Mario Strikers Charged outfit, and finally her ice skating outfit, this is a little out there but probably if she enters a stage with icy floors, ice skating blades can come out of her boots (if she is wearing the ice skating outfit) and when she is not on an icy floor her ice skating blades disappear from her boots, this just makes her walk on ice easier with less chances if slipping and she goes faster. Her side smash attack can probably be ramming her head into opponents like what she does in the striker series; she can also give spike damage to her opponents because of her crown.

Daisy’s Side Special: Daisy Bomber
It will be exactly like Peach Bomber except when she hits an opponent, instead of hearts, daisies will appear instead. It’s also slightly stronger and faster then Peach Bomber and it goes slightly farther.

Daisy’s Down Special: Daisy Bomb
It will be similar to Yoshi Bomb but hers does more damage and has more throwback, and when the move is executed, it is done slightly slower, compared to Yoshi Bomb. Also the animation is different from Yoshi’s, instead of her slamming her butt to the ground, she slams her feet to the ground. Probably the animation can look similar to Peach’s ground pound in Super Paper Mario when she uses Thudely.

Daisy’s Up Special: Daisy Parasol
This attack works like Peach Parasol but it goes on an upward direction when used and is as powerful as Luigi’s Super Jump Punch. This is how it works, if Daisy uses this move and it hit someone it does 3% damage but if it is done to an opponent at point blank range it will do about 30% of damage. On a side note Daisy’s parasol besides being colored orange and yellow it also has a daisy flower design on it.

Daisy’s Final Smash: Crystal Smash!
This is based off Daisy’s super ability from Mario Strikers Charged. This final smash can only be performed on the ground, but if she is in the air she will quickly go down to the ground damaging opponents from going down and from the crystals coming up, so the player have to be careful not to activate the Final Smash while being over a pit or an abyss. So this is what is going to happen, Daisy will all sudden change into her outfit from Mario Strikers Charged (if she is not wearing it) and then she will jump up (if on the ground) and go down and pound the ground with her fist then the crystals will come out and damage opponents on the ground and on the air depending how low they are.

Though these moves sound lame and generic, still discuss.
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I give a no to, Daisy. She would just be to similar to peach.
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So is Luigi to Mario. Yet they gave him a different moveset
 
BabyLuigiOnFire said:
drseaweed said:
Nunnally vi Britannia said:
Thanks for your SM, (Villain 11, will not going to hit the pikmin series for a long time, I'm going by series.) now onto the next topic.

Series: Mario

Daisy: Unlockable
She will make a good character for the next Super Smash Bros. game, but I can’t think of a standard special for her. Make her faster, slightly stronger (standard and special attacks), and slightly heavier then Peach. Daisy’s battle entrance can be her “blooming” out of a daisy flower, hence her name. I have an idea for one of Daisy’s alternate color dresses; her alternate color (most likely her red alternate color) can make her look like Peach (since pink is a lighter shade of red). Daisy should have alternate outfits like Wario but she has six outfits, her first outfit is her dress, the second one is in her athletic outfit (since she is lately seen wearing her athletic outfit more often), her biker suit, her Super Mario Strikers outfit, her Mario Strikers Charged outfit, and finally her ice skating outfit, this is a little out there but probably if she enters a stage with icy floors, ice skating blades can come out of her boots (if she is wearing the ice skating outfit) and when she is not on an icy floor her ice skating blades disappear from her boots, this just makes her walk on ice easier with less chances if slipping and she goes faster. Her side smash attack can probably be ramming her head into opponents like what she does in the striker series; she can also give spike damage to her opponents because of her crown.

Daisy’s Side Special: Daisy Bomber
It will be exactly like Peach Bomber except when she hits an opponent, instead of hearts, daisies will appear instead. It’s also slightly stronger and faster then Peach Bomber and it goes slightly farther.

Daisy’s Down Special: Daisy Bomb
It will be similar to Yoshi Bomb but hers does more damage and has more throwback, and when the move is executed, it is done slightly slower, compared to Yoshi Bomb. Also the animation is different from Yoshi’s, instead of her slamming her butt to the ground, she slams her feet to the ground. Probably the animation can look similar to Peach’s ground pound in Super Paper Mario when she uses Thudely.

Daisy’s Up Special: Daisy Parasol
This attack works like Peach Parasol but it goes on an upward direction when used and is as powerful as Luigi’s Super Jump Punch. This is how it works, if Daisy uses this move and it hit someone it does 3% damage but if it is done to an opponent at point blank range it will do about 30% of damage. On a side note Daisy’s parasol besides being colored orange and yellow it also has a daisy flower design on it.

Daisy’s Final Smash: Crystal Smash!
This is based off Daisy’s super ability from Mario Strikers Charged. This final smash can only be performed on the ground, but if she is in the air she will quickly go down to the ground damaging opponents from going down and from the crystals coming up, so the player have to be careful not to activate the Final Smash while being over a pit or an abyss. So this is what is going to happen, Daisy will all sudden change into her outfit from Mario Strikers Charged (if she is not wearing it) and then she will jump up (if on the ground) and go down and pound the ground with her fist then the crystals will come out and damage opponents on the ground and on the air depending how low they are.

Though these moves sound lame and generic, still discuss.
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I give a no to, Daisy. She would just be to similar to peach.
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So is Luigi to Mario. Yet they gave him a different moveset
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Just slightly altered that is not original
 
First off, Ronald_Reagan, I never said that Paper Mario wouldn't have a moveset, I just hate clones that are the same character in a different form. Toon Link, Young Link, the babies etc. Just wanted to get that point acrosss.

Second, Nunally vi Britannia Olimar and Jigglypuff should definently be in the next game. Sonic, whatever, but Jigglypuff is an orignial and Olimar has Pikmin 3 coming out and deserves to be in. Just because you suck with a charcter doesn't mean they are not worthy of being in. I stink with Bowser, Ganondorf, Ness, and Lucas, but they should be in the game.
 
First of all Villain 11 I never said I didn't want Olimar and Jigglypuff, Olimar is powerful and Jigglypuff is actually a powerhouse when you can master the air attacks. And second of all Villain 11, STAY ON THE FUCKIN TOPIC!!

I'm not going to ask this time, I'm going to the next topic. Daisy overall, her moves are rather lame and generic and she is basically a clone, but I'm sticking to that idea still.


Series: Mario

Bowser: Default
I have an idea for a new side special. I'm not saying that Bowser’s side special is not good it’s actually a good side special just to make that clear. I also think that his side smash attack should be changed; instead of Bowser hurling his body on front of him, he should do a Dark Spin (from Super Mario Galaxy) instead, for his side smash attack. Probably one of Bowser's alternate colors can make him look like Dark Bowser.

Bowser’s Side Special: Shell Roll
You know how in Super Mario Galaxy in the last Bowser battle on the second and third planet Bowser does a move that sort of looks like two Bowser shells clamped together and Bowser has the ability to roll in it similar to Yoshi’s Egg Roll? Well that should most likely be his new side special, it can probably work similar to Yoshi’s Egg Roll the only differences is that Shell Roll has more power, a farther reach then Egg Roll, faster, and has more traction then Egg Roll, so it can be used on icy floors without being vulnerable when trying to turn a different direction, also if used in midair, it will do a slight hop forward and will not leave Bowser in his helpless animation when he cancel the move in midair.

Alright, now it's time to discuss, if you have a better idea for a new name for Shell Roll then say it.