Unpopular opinions about the Mario series

Penguin Mario

🐧Penguins. Lots of them.🐧🐧🐧🐧
NSMBWii is overrated
It's my favorite of the 2D platformers but out of all the 2D Mario platformers, and I like it more than Super Mario World or Super Mario Bros. 3 (two of the most acclaimed Mario platformers), I can't say it's the most highly rated of them. What makes this unpopular? Can you elaborate why you think people like it too much? People generally cite the chaotic multiplayer of not enjoying as much as they should. For instance, I really dislike the stomping-on-head gamplay; so obnoxious but at least you can save yourself with the bubble; Rayman Origins and Legends did it better since you just overlap each other and if you want to use someone else as a platform, either tilt up while you're still or just punch them up. Even so, the penalty for dying in multiplayer in Rayman isn't that serious compared to Mario (where you lose your powerup, you revert to normal form, and you lose a life), you just turn into a bubble and have to guide yourself to the surviving player.

The Mysterious Hotel Delfino was actually one of the best missions in the Super Mario Sunshine, at least in my opinion.
well on the other hand I'm actually not too hot on the FLUDD-less levels in that game, which people seem to universally like too.
 
I also thought I'd dismiss NSMBWii for being generic garbage the first time around. I ended up replaying it more than all the other 2d Marios.
 

Penguin Mario

🐧Penguins. Lots of them.🐧🐧🐧🐧
If you think New Super Mario Bros. Wii is "generic" then I have no idea why you'd give a free pass to something like Super Mario Bros. 3, which doesn't have a proper multiplayer, has no star coins, much less alternate exits, has shorter levels, no wall-jumping, has better powerups, has better bosses, has a bigger variety of levels, and more.

The only things the other 2D Marios have are the solid Advance remakes especially Super Mario Advance: Super Mario Bros. 2 and especially that Mario Bros. side game they loved to put in every GBA Mario game barring Mario vs. Donkey Kong (which was sorely missing Mario Bros.).
 

ZelenPixel

(she/her) actual spore creature
honestly i dont even care that much for, like, any of the 2d marios lmao. ive been totally and absoltuely spoiled by dkc (which basically just took 2d mario and then made it so much better lmao) and rayman
i will aknowledge most of them were super duper important for the mario series but i just dont care to actually play them
 

Toadgamer

i cant believe they named some frog after toad
i would honestly kill for a more platformer version of super mario run. if nintendo implemented the super mario run mechanics into nsmb, like the vault and the roll thingy. that would spice up the gameplay a notch
 
If you think New Super Mario Bros. Wii is "generic" then I have no idea why you'd give a free pass to something like Super Mario Bros. 3, which doesn't have a proper multiplayer, has no star coins, much less alternate exits, has shorter levels, no wall-jumping, has better powerups, has better bosses, has a bigger variety of levels, and more.

The only things the other 2D Marios have are the solid Advance remakes especially Super Mario Advance: Super Mario Bros. 2 and especially that Mario Bros. side game they loved to put in every GBA Mario game barring Mario vs. Donkey Kong (which was sorely missing Mario Bros.).
SMB3 has that old cartoon style at least in the Nes version. NSMB games all look the same while the old ones all have their own style. You're also being a bit unfair on a game that was batshit insane for its time (88 LEVELS, lots of new power-ups besides fire flower, looks and sounds great and also uhhh the triple level end card thing kind of counts as star coins if you try to make them match in every single level for a challenge??? Also completing every bonus game flawlessly??). Bosses in Mario in general are not that good. I love Dark Land too.
 

Koops

Epic
smb3 only looks unique BECAUSE it was limited by its time

Now that graphics are good everything looks the same

Simple as that

Also on the topic of being harsh on an old game, I think it's fair to rate a game on its own merits and technological context but you can't call a modern game that's better worse than it simply because it didn't push the limits of the technology of its time. Back then games were pretty much required to push said limits to make them stand out among the crowd, now you don't need to do that because of more powerful hardware.
 

Redshift

Eats Lunch at 4:00 pm
Wiki Patroller
I don't even like Thousand-Year Door's soundtrack at all, so for me, it's not a high bar to clear.
 

ZelenPixel

(she/her) actual spore creature
Umm.. I think ´Mario Sucks´ isnt that ´unpopular´. Lots of people think that Mario sucks
i did not know it was a popular opinion in the fandom to hate on mario
i woulda assumed people would more often just not care that much for him and thats about it? i dunno! mario and luigi are both just my favorite mario characters 🤷
 

Penguin Mario

🐧Penguins. Lots of them.🐧🐧🐧🐧
I think most people are just indifferent at worst to Mario, but if people can tell me why they don't like him, then fair.
 

Andrew

Hi! Watcha want?
Yes. Everyone has their own opinions, we respect that. When someone starts a fight for that, that person is starting an ignorant fight.
You cannot change others opinions, because then those are no longer their opinions, they dont choose to believe that, theyre forced to have yours, and even then,your opinion may be wrong.
 

Mcmadness

The idiot who puts things in the wrong board.
Mario was a mistake.

It's nothing but jumping.
 
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