Mario Sports Superstars

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I absolutely hate the auto-lunge mechanic in Mario Tennis Open. So many times it lost me and my twin a doubles point because we mispredicted the ball and hit it instead of letting the guy in the back hit it. I've never played Ultra Smash so I don't know what mechanics had been changed. All I know is that I've heard it's got the best gameplay base out of all Mario Tennis games, but there's absolutely nothing on that base; if it can be compared to a house, it would consist of just the platform the house would rest on, and that's arguably not a good house.

Also Ultra Smash got rid of Miis and they're horribly balanced in Mario Tennis Open. Great to see that they stop saturating Mario games where I want to play as a damn Mario character rather than these bulbous abominations.

Stop blaming Nintendo for being lazy developers, though. They didn't develop this game, Camelot did. Blame Nintendo for giving a wayyyy too early release date so that not enough time can be spent on developing Ultra Smash. Camelot is a good developer, they clearly didn't have enough time, shown by the solid gameplay, yet lack of content.
 
Even so , in this context Nintendo would be at fault and not Camelot because it would be Nintendo that gets the final say in when the game is gonna be released. Camelot could have done a great game , but Nintendo didn't let them rushing Ultra Smash to the end of 2015 instead of waiting to 2016, so you are right on that point.

But Its still their fault going by that , besides since lately spin off games have been meh , it feels like sort of a trend , is not just US and its lack of content.
 
Actually, I found the latest Mario spin-off game, Mario Party: Star Rush, to be actually quite decent, better than meh like how Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash and Mario Party 10/Island Tour had been. I think that it's still marred by a lack of overall content but I think many Mario Party fans myself included will enjoy it.

What Nintendo is doing is bad, because it forces developers like Camelot to cut corners to meet the deadlines so we accuse of Ultra Smash of being lazily put together when haste explains it more than laziness. It explains why the UI in Ultra Smash looks lazy or why there are barely any animations.

From the looks of this game so far, I think it looks fun. I'm really hoping it has as much stuff to do content wise as Mario Sports Mix, that game is my bar of expectations for this one.
 
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I absolutely hate the auto-lunge mechanic in Mario Tennis Open. So many times it lost me and my twin a doubles point because we mispredicted the ball and hit it instead of letting the guy in the back hit it. I've never played Ultra Smash so I don't know what mechanics had been changed. All I know is that I've heard it's got the best gameplay base out of all Mario Tennis games, but there's absolutely nothing on that base; if it can be compared to a house, it would consist of just the platform the house would rest on, and that's arguably not a good house.

Also Ultra Smash got rid of Miis and they're horribly balanced in Mario Tennis Open. Great to see that they stop saturating Mario games where I want to play as a damn Mario character rather than these bulbous abominations.

Stop blaming Nintendo for being lazy developers, though. They didn't develop this game, Camelot did. Blame Nintendo for giving a wayyyy too early release date so that not enough time can be spent on developing Ultra Smash. Camelot is a good developer, they clearly didn't have enough time, shown by the solid gameplay, yet lack of content.
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I absolutely agree BLOF. Camelot has made many great games including their other sports games. Ultra Smash had potential, but Nintendo rushed it out so it lacks that polished feel that Power Tennis had. I think Ultra Smash undeniably got its ass handed by a game from 2004, that is Mario Power Tennis on the GameCube but that's only because of Nintendo's shitty decision to rush it out. I can't believe we have a low quality Mario sports game due to one bad decision. On top of that Nintendo did absolutely nothing to polish the game up like say adding extra modes and extra characters. It is inexcusable. There was no goddamn excuse to rush it out so quickly. This is an unacceptable excuse of a Mario Sports game and a first party Nintendo game in general.
 
We have just receive some details about Mario Sports Superstars a few days ago. (Thanks to gameinformer.)
http://nintendoeverything.com/a-few-mario-sports-superstars-details/

Here are the important details though,
• There will be arcade elements.
• There will be Special moves and abilities.
• You can choose a couple of captains based on the Mario cast, but your team will be compromised of the typical Mario characters (Goombas, Magikoopas and F**king Toads)
• Pitching in Baseball is timing based.

That's all really, but it's still something.
 
HELL YES WE GOT NEW INFORMATION. EVEN SMALL DETAILS LIKE THAT.

Anyway.

In case you haven’t heard, Mario Sports Superstars features five different sports: soccer, baseball, tennis golf, and the surprise inclusion of horse racing. Game Informer notes that single matches and tournaments can be played. You start out by choosing a couple of captains comprised of the bigger characters such as Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser. The rest of the team is then filled in with less prominent characters like Goombas, Magikoopas, and different costumed Toads.
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The multiple character selection thing is probably applicable only to Soccer and Baseball, as the other sports, Golf, Tennis, and Horse Racing seem to be single/double player based. From what we've seen in the footage, Soccer seems to be completely homogenous with your character picks like in Super Mario Strikers (you pick one guy and the team slots get filled). Also, I think it's two captains per team in Soccer and Baseball, and the rest are generics, like in the footage.

It's nothing new at least in my eyes of my analysis of the video but glad to see that confirmed. I'm wondering if Baseball will work like in the first Super Mario Strikers. Like, I did see Penguin Toad and the like, but if you pick, say, a Toad, your team will be filled with Toad variations? Or if you pick Koopa, it's fitted with variations? Or will it be like Mario Baseball and you get to pick each individual teammates.

Arcade elements will naturally be a part of the Mario Sports Superstars experience. Game Informer mentions special moves and abilities. The magazine also says that when pitching in baseball, it’s timing-based.
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I've seen Bowser execute a fire swing in Mario Sports Superstars, pretty sure it's referring to that. I'm not sure if it's character specific like in Mario Sports Mix or if it's a similarish special ability like the sidekick special abilities.

Pitching being timing-based is a new thing. I've seen different controls for it than in Mario Baseball. While you can argue that pitching in Mario Baseball games are timing based, here, it revolves on you hitting marks with a UI.
 
Nintendo has just released more details today.
Five full-on sports—Soccer, Tennis, Golf, Baseball, and Horse Racing—bring the challenge and depth you demand to Nintendo 3DS systems. Take on friends and rivals in local or online multiplayer, hone skills in training, or tackle single-player tournaments. Whether you pick Mario, Waluigi, or one of sixteen others, you’re on the road to superstardom!

Before long, you’ll have mastered the ins and outs of each sport: learn when to use an infield shift in Baseball, change your team’s formation in Soccer, and more. Even Horse Racing is surprisingly deep! Build a stable of horses and train them well to win the day in the first-ever horse races in series history. But remember: these aren’t normal sports—they’re Mario Sports. Expect unexpected thrills and power up to stomp the competition.

– Five full-featured sports: Soccer, Tennis, Golf, Baseball, and Horse Racing!
– Play as your favorite Mario characters, like Yoshi, Bowser, Peach, and more!
– Horse Racing makes it’s Mario Sports debut
– Take on friends and rivals in local or online multiplayer
– Single-player tournaments and training mode provide hours of feverish fun
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Most notable details
  • There will be eighteen playable characters. (Sixteen are already confirmed.)
  • There is going to be a Training Mode.
  • You have to build a stable and train your horses before you can actually race them.
  • You can change your formations in Soccer/Football
  • Baseball will have in-field shifts.

That's all for now.
 
I'm actually curious to know what the other two characters might be; I was thinking about Wendy and Larry because of females/males ratio in the roster and because the second tends to be featured when Wendy is around while also playing two of the sports already (he rides horses in the latest Mario & Sonic and plays tennis in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga), but since Dry Bowser wasn't yet announced I think they rather might be him and Dry Bones, or the green Sprixie Princess if they want to do something about females/males ratio without sacrificing Dry Bowser.
 
I really hope there are multiple golf courses. I love the 3DS Mario Golf and I absolutely want more.