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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 05:55:17 PM »
Ironically as someone who likes Peach best of all the major Mario females, I couldn't give 2 *bleep*s as to whether or not she is kidnapped or not.

Everyone and their mother has been kidnapped in this franchise and if they haven't been kidnapped yet someone out there is plotting out how to kidnap them.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »
Everyone and their mother has been kidnapped in this franchise and if they haven't been kidnapped yet someone out there is plotting out how to kidnap them.
big up for the mad lad who wants to kidnap lubba

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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 06:38:58 PM »
I for one will take SPM's lore any day over having everything that could remotely be compared to a legitimate backstory eradicated with a giant thick eraser like what happened after that game. It may have went a little far with how it was written but I don't think the optional history dialogues should've been canned, they made for good reads and added history to a universe that I'm invested in. While not being so incredibly pivotal to the main plot to the point where there are plot holes if you don't listen to the historian. If say, the main plot had constantly referenced the Pixl war enough to leave holes if you play the story without talking to the guy, that would've been a different story. But it's side content and I'd rather have it than not have it.
I have to disagree. After learning about Kingdom Hearts "lore" I think I am actually grateful the Mario series dropped all the bull*bleep* nonsense before we get things like Darkness Prophecy Heart Paper Darkness Mario 2.93. This *bleep* detracts from your game because you have no clue whats going on, and it's real shallow when all motivation for anyone is just because some dumb*bleep* book.

I'm sorry but Paper Mario "deepness" is as thin as a kiddy pool. And I mean any old kiddy pool at Walmart.

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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2019, 06:42:11 PM »
Fawful alone has this inconsistency within his appearances: he explodes in Superstar Saga, not permanent. He explodes in BIS, permanent.

There is a major difference between the two, though. In BiS, Fawful has this grandiose dialogue of taking you out as he dies, and I don't quite remember such a dramatic quote as that in Superstar Saga. Context matters here.

Everyone and their mother has been kidnapped in this franchise and if they haven't been kidnapped yet someone out there is plotting out how to kidnap them.

Could you like shut up about the kidnapping of Baby Luigi forever then while I complain about it in peace.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2019, 06:52:30 PM »
Nah.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2019, 06:58:47 PM »
I for one will take SPM's lore any day over having everything that could remotely be compared to a legitimate backstory eradicated with a giant thick eraser like what happened after that game. It may have went a little far with how it was written but I don't think the optional history dialogues should've been canned, they made for good reads and added history to a universe that I'm invested in. While not being so incredibly pivotal to the main plot to the point where there are plot holes if you don't listen to the historian. If say, the main plot had constantly referenced the Pixl war enough to leave holes if you play the story without talking to the guy, that would've been a different story. But it's side content and I'd rather have it than not have it.
I have to disagree. After learning about Kingdom Hearts "lore" I think I am actually grateful the Mario series dropped all the bull*bleep* nonsense before we get things like Darkness Prophecy Heart Paper Darkness Mario 2.93. This *bleep* detracts from your game because you have no clue whats going on, and it's real shallow when all motivation for anyone is just because some dumb*bleep* book.

I'm sorry but Paper Mario "deepness" is as thin as a kiddy pool. And I mean any old kiddy pool at Walmart.
It's fine to have that opinion but I don't think that can detract from the game when it's entirely optional to even hear about. It's there for people who like it, and can be ignored for people who don't.


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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2019, 07:03:32 PM »
Well if they are going to bother with such things fine, just make it less stupid.

Or stupid on purpose. I can't take something called the "pixl war" seriously in any context.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2019, 07:48:17 PM »
The stupid part is that Pixls are goofy shape critters with Mario-Power-Up-Eyes and yet they have a dark serious backstory. I love that kind of meshing of flavors.


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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2019, 07:53:12 PM »
To me, it's mood whiplash.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2019, 07:57:40 PM »
Had it been it's own thing from the start instead of part of Mario, it wouldn't bother me.

Hell one of my favourite games (Mother 3) is silly cartoonish *bleep* with horrible tragedy.

But when it's suddenly applied to something that for about 2 decades or so has never had such things, I just find it more irritating and out of place than anything else.

Sort of a less extreme bomberman act zero.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2019, 11:38:09 PM »
So what's your stance on the Kingdom Hearts lore where they do lob all of this darkness nonsense onto Disney IPs?
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2019, 07:05:25 AM »
Well, considering how Disney movies can get pretty *bleep*ed up at times, it's not that big a deal.

What is a big deal is how convoluted, poorly written and nonsensical it all is.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2019, 10:56:49 AM »
Well for starters I don't really support the idea of Super Mario Bros. 3 being a staged play in-universe or the Paper Mario universe being a separate world entirely contained within a book.

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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2019, 11:33:29 AM »
The fact that it's all in a book makes it a lot easier for me to ignore it so that's fine with me.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2019, 11:34:34 AM »
I've always regarded Paper Mario as not the same person as Mario so I support that too

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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2019, 11:43:25 AM »
I prefer to think Vivian exists in the standard Mario world thanks


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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2019, 11:48:48 AM »
And you can. Won't mean anything as there is no standard mario world but hey, headcanons are fun.
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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2019, 11:54:12 AM »


I prefer to think Vivian exists in the standard Mario world thanks
I can't help but read your post as if I forced you into thinking the opposite.

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Re: Established in-universe fact/explanation in Games that you Don't Support
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2019, 02:13:30 PM »
Yoshi's New Island didn't happen.

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2019, 04:45:35 PM »
the one where miyamoto said mario is 24

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