Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

I know Smash 4 had a lot of stage/music packs without characters, including a Kirby one. It's too bad they don't seem to be doing that with Ultimate.
 
i dont even play ssbu anymore but!!!! i hate it here it seems like any music to the base game series may only be added with a dlc character which is like.... can that really happen for a lot of these. are we getting a yoshi rep in this pass just so we could have the final boss theme.
 
i dont even play ssbu anymore but!!!! i hate it here it seems like any music to the base game series may only be added with a dlc character which is like.... can that really happen for a lot of these. are we getting a yoshi rep in this pass just so we could have the final boss theme.
Who would it be? Yoshi basically is the Yoshi franchise.
 
kamek or poochy would be pretty much the only choices, theyre a pretty notable part of the series and could pick a lot from there and not just mainline mario
 
kamek or poochy would be pretty much the only choices, theyre a pretty notable part of the series and could pick a lot from there and not just mainline mario
Kamek, even though he debuted as a part of the Yoshi franchise, has appeared in more games under the Mario franchise.
Poochy seems more like an Assist Trophy than a fighter.
 
Yoshi's appeared in more Mario games than Yoshi games.

Which brings into question why exactly Smash bothers distinguishing Yoshi as its own franchise, or even Wario for that matter.
Yoshi gets his fighting style from the Yoshi's Island games, so it kind of makes sense.
Wario's main costume is his outfit from WarioWare, with his moves coming from either Wario Land or Wario World.
 
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Between Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi, Yoshi's games are easily the least distinct and make much more use of Mario characters than the other two. His platformers also take more after core Mario games than DK's or Wario's, and before Yoshi started becoming its own thing, the original Yoshi's Island would appear to have been considered a core Mario game itself.

Wario at least uses a lot of non-Mario characters in his games and has a very distinct playstyle, but say, if Waluigi were to get into Smash as a fighter, we'd have some odd predicament where Waluigi is considered a Mario character but not Wario, which kinda goes against the reason Waluigi was invented in the first place. Heck, we already kind of have that with Trophies and Spirits.

But both Yoshi and Wario debuted as and remain key characters in the Mario cast, and it just doesn't make sense to me to call them anything other than Mario characters.

What confuses me is why a stage from a Super Mario game is considered a Yoshi stage.
This too. It just goes to show how ludicrous it is to consider Yoshi separate. Kind of annoying how I only have one Mario music option on a Mario stage...