Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

God I really hope we don't get a Dragon Quest character then. I can't imagine the shitshow of trying to mess with all the copyrights that have to be dealt with.

Not to mention the composer of DQ is a ginormous asshole, so we'd never get DQ music in Smash anyways.
 
Hisoka Marow said:
when there's no final fantasy representation that wasn't already in smash 4 I think that makes the difference between "copyright" and "plain stinginess" too big to ignore

take one look at the other third party franchises and you'll notice that they tons of representation, whether it be new assist trophies, spirits, or literally dozens of songs. you'll see none of that for final fantasy and that's embarrassing tbh
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Trademark is prone to anal pain for use agreements. Pokemon was a pain in the ass for the developers to negotiate as well, if I recall correctly. See Super Mario Maker, where Pokemon have been hilariously (and depressingly) restricted to generic sound effects. There are people who have different takes on how they like their characters to be depicted and shared and copyright plays that role regardless. Simply, Squenix is stubbornly anal and is a detriment to everyone involved, and copyright/trademark allows it. That's what it boils down to.

Sucks that they even get rewarded for this behavior; they appear to show very little gratitude that their precious franchise gets to be guest in a huge third party game, and practically everyone else, (the development team, the players) loses.

Doc von Schmeltwick said:
How does that situation with Geno even work? He was more than likely created for the Mario setting, meaning, according to IP laws of every country I can find, he belongs to Nintendo. Hence why Nintendo owns the DK characters Rare created.
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Squenix owns Geno, not Nintendo. I'm not sure how it works, but it seems like they own Geno, but not necessarily the game. Geno got culled in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga remake because I strongly suspect AlphaDream just wanted to avoid that headache all together and I don't blame them at all.
 
Doc von Schmeltwick said:
How does that situation with Geno even work? He was more than likely created for the Mario setting, meaning, according to IP laws of every country I can find, he belongs to Nintendo. Hence why Nintendo owns the DK characters Rare created.
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Well, M&L Superstar Saga had to credit Square in the credits for Geno's appearance...so...I don't know how they still own Geno.
 
Doc von Schmeltwick said:
I'm saying that if Geno were created for a Mario game, then, legally speaking, he would belong to Nintendo, period. And given it's happened with Nintendo before, I'm not sure what's different in this case.
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Copyrights for characters can be kinda weird. Nintendo probably either didn't realize or didn't think they would need the copyright for Geno and other SMRPG characters.
If you want to see how this sort of thing can go horribly wrong, see the entire debacle with Archie Sonic.
 
they probably could get geno back in their games if they wanted to, but that's assuming they give two shits about geno to begin with, and they arguably...don't
 
JC said:
Nadeshiko Kagamihara said:
The Breath of the Wild Presentation music was all I wanted for new zelda music. I don't know what genius decided to not use it in the game itself but at least smash has got my back.
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Unfortunately it's an arrangement, which makes me sceptical since the original was already perfect. Hopefully the game has both.
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Just the one it looks like, but I think this arrangement is better suited to being smash bgm than the original version.