Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
memoryman3 said:
The Double Item mechanic in Mario Kart 8 will require item balance tweaking, and new tracks take a ton of effort to make, as they need new assets and AI programmed for each track. Modelling characters to fit in every kart is easier than Smash, but not as easy as you guys make out to be. Plus, the DLC team was much smaller than the original Smash 4 team, and they still got out 7 characters in the span of a year. With a larger team and two years, I can easily see 10 or more new characters. You have to think about the value it has for the end consumer, not ''ohh balancing is so hard get over it!'
1. Item balancing tweaking? No, this isn't even a big change.
2. New tracks? Yes. They're the most time-consuming part of Mario Kart DLC.
3. No, it's not easy. Mario169 is incorrect here by claiming that they "are all pretty much the same". Not quite, if you're dealing with models, textures, animations, and plenty of voice effects. BUT, it still takes considerably less time since you don't have to worry about hitboxes, hurtboxes, physics, knockback angles, frame data, and that stuff. Plus, Smash may have more animation to deal with. Oh, and Kirby needs yet another new model and animation.
4. Just because Mario Kart 8 got out 7 characters doesn't mean Smash will be able to get out 10 new characters in a year.

I'm sure we all think about the "value" but we live in reality not Smashtansy Land.
 
mods make smashtansy land happen

uh, requires a bit of effort on your end but totally doable

i mean i've seen some pretty damn insane-looking final smashes in there.

Kamina said:
yeah, smash bros isn't mario kart at all

while characters for mario kart, besides having different models, are all pretty much the same, making smash characters is very much harder. not only do you have to make different models, but they also need different physics, hitboxes, movesets, etc. so I think you're underestimating how time-consuming it is to make eleven fighters

would like to tell you that tracks is the mario kart equivalent of new characters. smash bros. stages can't even compare to those big hulking mario kart tracks.
 
Baby Luigi said:
Kamina said:
yeah, smash bros isn't mario kart at all

while characters for mario kart, besides having different models, are all pretty much the same, making smash characters is very much harder. not only do you have to make different models, but they also need different physics, hitboxes, movesets, etc. so I think you're underestimating how time-consuming it is to make eleven fighters

would like to tell you that tracks is the mario kart equivalent of new characters. smash bros. stages can't even compare to those big hulking mario kart tracks.
ah, I see. but still, like blof said it takes more time and effort to make smash characters than mario kart ones
 
Fine, Memoryman. Go ahead and expect a grand total of 11 new characters.

I just won't be surprised you find yourself heading for a major letdown if we barely get anything.

I'm keeping my expectations at a healthy rate. For me it's just a port where they may not even add any new characters because they just want to port another of the Wii U's most popular games onto the Switch so it sells better. And even if they do add any characters, 3 is the absolute maximum possible to me

But hey if you're somehow right, that's one thing that I'll be glad to be wrong about. Cause I'd love that many additional characters. I just don't see it happening.