Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.7%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 26.3%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.9%

  • Total voters
    38

SonicMario

Star Spirit
I think being that SSB4 is this time getting alot of hints to getting some big stuff revealed, I thought a separate thread just for the SSB stuff could be very useful as we get ever so closer to SSB4. Considering not only will it be part of the beginning show but there will quite possibly be a separate Nintendo Direct.

Which speaking of which, there seems to be actually a rumor here (Source being 4Chan or not, I find it at least somewhat realistic). Make sure to put your response to the image here in a Spoiler box because if it is real then it spoils it for those who are waiting for the Trailer to surprise them.



So according to this. This is what we'll know:

The official title is Super Smash Bros. Calamity (I think it's kinda a weird name and certainly the longest surname after 64, Melee, and Brawl but I can roll for it.). Though I suppose if people dislike this game they'll have an easy way to make fun of it given the definition of Calamity...

Returning from Brawl
Mario
Link
Pit
Kirby
Pikachu
DK
Captain Falcon
Fox
Samus
Peach
Zelda
Olimar
Ness
Ice Climbers
Marth
Yoshi
Bowser
Sonic

Newcomers
Mewtwo (In X/Y Form)
Palutena
Skulk
Tharja
Pac-Man

That's over 20 already confirmed characters if this is true (But considering the roster expectations this is likely only about half the roster). But anyway, I find it at least somewhat believable because of what they're saying about the trailer being an homage to Melee's Opening, I think the Newcomers are quite believable as well (Including Pac-Man since Namco is working on the game after all), and I actually never realized that Mewtwo having relevence in X/Y could pave his way to returning again to Smash Brothers.

Welcome to the in-general Super Smash Bros thread! In here speculations, discussions about anything revealed prior to the release. And discussion about the game after release as well shall be placed here. Given this thread's been like that since E3 ended though probably don't need to say too much. However in the OP I will put what's been confirmed.

OFFICIAL TITLE(/s)/RELEASE DATE
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS

3DS: October 3rd, 2014 *RELEASED*
Wii U: November 21st, 2014 *RELEASED*

CHARACTERS

CONFIRMED RETURNING VETERANS
Mario
DK
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Bowser
Pit
Olimar
Luigi
Peach
Toon Link
Sonic
Marth
Zelda
King Dedede
Lucario
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Sheik
Yoshi
Charizard
Ike
Captain Falcon
Meta Knight
Ness
Falco
Wario
Dr. Mario
Ganondorf
ROB
Mr. Game and Watch
Jigglypuff

CONFIRMED NEWCOMERS
Villager
Mega Man
Wii Fit Trainer
Rosalina
Little Mac
Greninja
Mii Fighter(/s)
Palutena
Pac-Man
Robin
Lucina
Shulk
Dark Pit
Bowser Jr.
Duck Hunt

CONFIRMED DLC CHARACTERS

Mewtwo - Released on April 15th for those who registered both versions on Club Nintendo, April 28th for everyone else
Lucas - Releases in June

ALT. COSTUMES
Male Wii Fit Trainer
Wireframe Little Mac

Bold = Most recently revealed

STAGES

Wii U
Battlefield
Boxing Ring
Skyloft
Town and City
Dr. Wily's Castle
Wii Fit Studio
Garden of Hope
Pilot Wings
Pyrosphere
Windy Hill Zone
Mario Galaxy
Palutena's Temple
Final Destination
Kalos Pokémon League
Halbred

3DS
Battlefield
Gerudo Valley
Spirit Train
Living Room
Arena Ferox
3D Land
Reset Bomb Forest
Find Mii
Rainbow Road
Boxing Ring
Tortimer Island
Prism Tower
Tomodachi Collection Stage
Final Destination
Balloon Fight
Jungle Japes

ITEMS/ASSIST TROPHIES/POKEBALL POKEMON

Smash Ball
Capsule
X-Bomb (From Kid Icarus: Uprising)
Pokeball
Hocotate Bomb
Ray Gun
Assist Trophy
Steel Diver
Green Shell
Fire Flower
Beetle
Home-Run Bat
Fairy Bottle
Bumper
Motion Sensor Bomb
Cucco
Ore Club
Gust Bellows
Crates
Rolling Crates
Beam Sword
Bob-omb
Smart Bomb
Rocket Belt
POW Block
Fire Bar
Back Shield
Bombchu
Master Ball
Spiny Shell
Bunny Hood
Unira
Soccer Ball
Barrel
Screw Attack
Franklin Badge
Lightning
Timer
Super Mushroom
Warp Star
Food
Heart Container
Super Scope
Blast Box
Hammer
Golden Hammer
Star Rod
Lip's Stick
Pitfall
Smoke Ball
Spring
Team Healer
Deku Nut
Mr. Saturn
Freezie
Sandbag
Hothead
Super Leaf
Treasure Chest
Bullet Bill
Beehive
Drill Arm
Special Flag
Boomerang Flower
Killer Eye
Metal Box
Superspicy Curry
Poison Mushroom
Maxim Tomato
Starman
Skull Kid
Nintendog (French Bulldog)
Starfy
Ashley
Mother Brain
Waluigi
Andross
Isabelle
Metroid
Samurai Goroh
Devil
Knuckle Joe
Saki Amamiya
Lyn
Dr. Wright
Midna
Dark Samus
Chain Chomp
Elec Man
Color TV-Game 15
Xerneas
Palkia
Dedenne
Arceus
Meowth
Electrode
Eevee
Staryu
Metagross
Fennekin
Meloetta
Gogoat
Entei
Deoxys
Kyurem
Victini
Keldeo
Bellossom
Chespin
Snorlax
Spewpa
Darkrai
Goldeen
Mew

GAMEPLAY CHANGES/RETURNING MECHANICS/GENERAL INFO

Tripping's been removed
Game speed faster then Brawl but slower then Melee's
3DS will have some kind of character customization setting that will be transferable to the Wii U version
Footstool Jumping and Final Smashes will Return
Multiple, non-directional air dodging like Brawl
Multiple Taunts return as well.
Cutscenes won't be as heavily focused on. Likely meaning no Story mode like the Subspace Emissary.
The 3DS Version is geared more for the single-player. While the Wii U version is aimed for the Multiplayer.
Both versions will have the same amount of characters.
Sakurai has expressed interest in DLC and Patches for this game.
 

GalacticPetey

Donkey Kong
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

I don't think they'd reveal that many characters right off the bat.
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

I think we need

King K. Rool

Waluigi

Geno

Galactaknight (maybe)

Mega Man

Bowser Jr./Shadow (they could have a Zelda/Sheik thing going on.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

GalacticPetey said:
I don't think they'd reveal that many characters right off the bat.
Considering most of the characters are no-brainer returnees I actually disagree a little bit. How many newcomers did we get in the Brawl Trailer? Pit, Meta Knight, Zero Suit Samus, Wario, and Solid Snake. The exact same amount of newcomers revealed here.

This time Nintendo may just not be as lenient on holding up on the Smash Veterans showing up as they were with the Brawl trailer when we only got Mario, Link, Pikachu, Kirby and technically Samus.
 

Smasher

Smasher
Forum Moderator
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Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Everything else is believable (Shulk, Pac-Man, Palutena, and Mewtwo all make sense as newcomers, and those it lists from Brawl are all pretty likely to return), but this one makes me think that it could be fake. I haven't played Fire Emblem: Awakening, but Tharja really so important in that game that she earns a spot in SSB before Chrom, the main character?
 

Cirdec

Celestial Guide
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Mewtwo in its new form would be awesome.
 

John Doe

Ace Ice Cream Salesman...?
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

i'm going to agree with smasher. tharja seems like a weird choice. it's not like she had any real story influences. i'm thinking this might be fake
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

I'll put my thoughts about it in the quote.

Northern Verve said:


So according to this. This is what we'll know:

The official title is Super Smash Bros. Calamity (I think it's kinda a weird name and certainly the longest surname after 64, Melee, and Brawl but I can roll for it. No, I disagree, I like it. Way better than Universe or whatever that was). Though I suppose if people dislike this game they'll have an easy way to make fun of it given the definition of Calamity...

Returning from Brawl
Mario
Link
Pit
Kirby
Pikachu
DK
Captain Falcon
Fox
Samus
Peach
Zelda
Olimar
Ness
Ice Climbers
Marth
Yoshi
Bowser
Sonic
So, what about major characters like Ganodorf. (won't care honestly if we get Ghirahim, but maybe this is just some of them. but no ike :(

Newcomers
Mewtwo (In X/Y Form) I don't care about Pokemon
Palutena She was on my list, so that's good.
Skulk I'll enjoy this one, I think
Tharja What? As cool as I think this would be, it seems kind of far-fetched. I mean, she wasn't a major part of Awakening's story. Either they want a majic user (but I still want Chrom and Ike), or perhaps it's because she ranked pretty high on the favorite Awakening character poll list thing
Pac-Man fine with this.

That's over 20 already confirmed characters if this is true (But considering the roster expectations this is likely only about half the roster). But anyway, I find it at least somewhat believable because of what they're saying about the trailer being an homage to Melee's Opening, I think the Newcomers are quite believable as well (Including Pac-Man since Namco is working on the game after all), and I actually never realized that Mewtwo having relevence in X/Y could pave his way to returning again to Smash Brothers.
 

Petra Macneary

"The hated boss who beats you down..."
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Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

I'd believe it if it was Chrom, but Tharja just seems kind of random.
 

MST3K

Donkey Kong
Forum Moderator
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

These newcomers are all ....eh.
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

It just doesn't seem like they would suddenly put Mewtwo back in the game like that. Plus, I think it's weird that they'll put Paulenta into the game when she is Pit's final smash. Granted, we have no idea if the final smash stuff will be back in this game, but I don't know...

It seems really unlikely. I thought they would put someone like Eirika or Lyn or Ephraim before they go with Tharja.
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

cryoAwakening said:
It just doesn't seem like they would suddenly put Mewtwo back in the game like that. Plus, I think it's weird that they'll put Paulenta into the game when she is Pit's final smash. Granted, we have no idea if the final smash stuff will be back in this game, but I don't know...

It seems really unlikely. I thought they would put someone like Eirika or Lyn or Ephraim before they go with Tharja.
Um, no.

Pit's final smash can easily be changed. If you've played Uprising, you'd totally see the potential (I was thinking like the Three Sacred Treasures or something), And Chrom, hello! Lyn, is just no. She was in one game, and I'm pretty sure Eliwood was more known from her game but people just suggest her since she was in Brawl and they know nothing about Fire Emblem. I would like Eirika and Ephraim, but I admit, that they are rather irrelevant now, which is why Marth, Ike, and Chrom are ideal.
 

Pyro

Power Star
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Ahahahahahahaaa.

1. "Portable" slapped in on the end sounds really dumb.
2. Again, Tharja. Even though I don't play Fire Emblem.
3. Source is 4chan. Haha.

I think it's just more people lying.
 

Dr. Baby Luigi

Mushroom Kingdom's Most Adorable Doctor
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

This is just as reliable as that other rumor thing that popped up on GameFAQs a while ago

Bottom Line? Not trusting it.
 

Dorayaki

King Bowser
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Kingfawful4321 said:
I think we need
King K. Rool
Waluigi Geno Bowser Jr
Mega Man (they could have a Zelda/Sheik thing going on.
Except those jokings, we can't afford more Mario members here. And I thought there are many other guys like Toad and Daisy in the first row. King K Rool would be okay if Diddy isn't in this time.

cryoAwakening said:
It just doesn't seem like they would suddenly put Mewtwo back in the game like that.
Sorry may I ask who's Skulk? And Mewtwo is a special case since Nintendo intended to promote Mewtwo again in XY system.
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

@ Dorayaki

Shulk is from Xenoblade, which I recently believe became a Nintendo franchise (don't quote me on this)
 

Sonicyay2

Monty Mole
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

HELL YEA! SONIC IS RETURNING! hopefully.
 

Master Crash

The Dragon of the West
Chat Operator
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Tharja, huh?... Interesting.

She is pretty popular in both NA and Japan, so I wouldn't doubt her having some kind of involvement, plus a mage would be a nice change from the usual sword-toters.

But ugh, I'm kind of hoping this is fake because I don't really want to see Pac-Man in Smash Bros.
 

Garlic Man

Name-change free since 2018
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Yeah Palutena's not happening. If I end up eating my words so be it, but keep in mind that just because a character is in an animated opening sequence does not mean they're playable in game. (Ridley, Goroh, and all those Pokemon in the Melee trailer)

I kind of think that whole post is bullshit, anyway.


On an unrelated note, please remove slipping and tripping

Banana peels causing them are fine but the random ones are just meaningless
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

So, it's been confirmed we're getting a whole trailer at the E3 Direct on Wednesday. Yay!

EDIT:

And be sure to read the Shroom this week for my special Smash 4 character opinion section!
 

Boo4761

Something.
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

New Characters and forgotten characters i want in the game
Meowth
Mewtwo
King Boo
:boo:
:waluigi:
Mew
Marx
 
Re: E3 2013 Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion

Randombob-omb4761 said:
New Characters and forgotten characters i want in the game
Meowth
Mewtwo
King Boo
:boo:
:waluigi:
Mew
Marx
I don't think we need King Boo AND Boo, all we need is just one boo.
 
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