Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
I'm gonna be honest. I don't keep up with Smash lingo or any of that. So I'm gonna ask nicely:

DUCK HUNT

Gentleman 4% -> 5%, KBG 130 -> 125, BKB 40 -> 50, size 5.0 units -> 5.8 units, shifted up 1 unit

What does this say in plain-ass English? I feel like I'm trying to read a foreign language.
 
Yeah, these are weird terms most Smash players wouldn't know unless you're into frame data.

I'm assuming "Gentleman" means your jab combo without the multi-hit duck pecking, as that term is used in Melee to describe Falcon's third jab hit before he starts punching rapidly.

Damage was increased by 1%. This directly increases the knockback, assuming no other variables changed.

KBG = Knockback Growth. You know how a forward smash sends you far at high percents, but a jab doesn't? KBG determines how much knockback scales with damage. It was lowered from 130 to 125, meaning it has less kill potential.

BKB = Base Knockback. Knockback that doesn't scale and will always apply, whether it's 0% or 300%. It was increased from 40 to 50, meaning it will send further at lower percents than it did before.

The hitbox size was increased, making it cover a bigger area.

Shifted up 1 unit means the hitbox covers at a higher elevation, albeit a very small amount.

It seems the intent of the change was to make Duck Hunt's big jab hit before the duck starts pecking easier to land and increase the damage slightly, while changes to KBG and BKB don't mean basically anything besides kind of offsetting the increase of knockback from the damage buff.

Your character is like 0.01% better, congrats
 
Glitchy said:
The new combos Robin can do with his down throw are amazing. Down throw -> Arcthunder -> Nosferatu is really good.
People have already been calling the down throw up air combo Robin can get at fairly high percents the Checkmate.