Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Nysic]

iirc Samus has always been near the bottom of the tier list.

 

[Stargazing]

I'm being rekt pretty bad by Ice.

I've only killed him once during all the matches. It's been 5-7, I think.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

So, I thought Peach was the worst veteran in SSB4.................then I played as Samus.

Samus mains: how do you do it? How do you play good with Samus? Her specials take forever (minus Screw Attack), her Smash attacks have pathetic range and no killing power, her USmash is LOL (have fun trying to hit people with the entire thing). Just...I don't know man. And to think Sakurai said that she was the strongest character back at E3 (we all knew that was bull*bleep* anyways).

I can't use it properly, for the life of me. Its USmash is utter crap. Its F-Smash and D-Smash are its best kill moves. Its FAir is always lackluster. I think its best moves are Utilt, Dtilt, and... I don't know. Why can't it adopt some moves from Mii Gunner? Hell, why can't it be exactly like Mii Gunner, where it actually feels like a shooting character?

iirc Samus has always been near the bottom of the tier list.

Not in Melee. Samus was pretty decent in Melee. I think it was midtier, though. Either way, I can't use it in Melee either. In Smash 64, it's THE bottom character.

Zelda's the one that's always bottom tier. Ness hasn't really fared well either in all games, although he got an initial strong tier placement in Smash 64.

I've used a fair bit of Greninja. It's not too spectacular. Its counter is probably one of the worst counters, but maybe I'm not controlling it properly. Its Shadow Sneak isn't that great; it feels too laggy to be useable. Its recovery is predictable and just meh overall. It just doesn't have a lot of great moves. It's not bad, but not good either.

 

[Lumastar]

So, I thought Peach was the worst veteran in SSB4.................then I played as Samus.

Samus mains: how do you do it? How do you play good with Samus? Her specials take forever (minus Screw Attack), her Smash attacks have pathetic range and no killing power, her USmash is LOL (have fun trying to hit people with the entire thing). Just...I don't know man. And to think Sakurai said that she was the strongest character back at E3 (we all knew that was bull*bleep* anyways).

I can't use it properly, for the life of me. Its USmash is utter crap. Its F-Smash and D-Smash are its best kill moves. Its FAir is always lackluster. I think its best moves are Utilt, Dtilt, and... I don't know. Why can't it adopt some moves from Mii Gunner? Hell, why can't it be exactly like Mii Gunner, where it actually feels like a shooting character?

iirc Samus has always been near the bottom of the tier list.

Not in Melee. Samus was pretty decent in Melee. I think it was midtier, though. Either way, I can't use it in Melee either. In Smash 64, it's THE bottom character.

Zelda's the one that's always bottom tier. Ness hasn't really fared well either in all games, although he got an initial strong tier placement in Smash 64.

It?

Also, Ness may end up being a strong character in this game. Maybe not high tier strong, but around upper-mid tier.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

C'mon, don't you still agree that Samus needs to take some cues from Mii Gunner and Megaman, who handle the gunner aspect of it much, much better?

 

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y'know for some odd reason, i cannot find myself able to do smash attacks with megaman

like, my mind was so set on the mega buster being the default chargeable b move, that when i found out it was his f-smash, i couldn't adapt

despite this, i can do his up and down smash perfectly fine, and i can do any other character's forward smashes so i don't fucking know