Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Zae]

not to mention that rosalina's aerials absolutely suck, mid jumping approaches arent even an option with her.

Honestly i hate playing as her, it's almost unbearable.

The up aerial is actually quite good for juggling purposes though.

assuming they dont air dodge.

 

[Stargazing]

I should probably point out that there are some people who have suggested that Greninja is very good, but it's actually a very overrated fighter once you find out that all of its specials can easily be punished, including Substitute. Add the fact that Greninja's KO moves are lacking, and its third jump is very hard to control, then you pretty much know that Greninja is nowhere near as good as Sheik.

what

 

[Xiahou Ba]

i'm actually fairly decent with rosalina

btw, i am NOT a fan of the menu layout. i don't like it how all the solo modes are lumped into a big fat "games and others" category. ugh.

 

[Zae]

i'm actually fairly decent with rosalina

btw, i am NOT a fan of the menu layout. i don't like it how all the solo modes are lumped into a big fat "games and others" category. ugh.

oh the horror


but in all honesty im actually sick of this game, surprised i managed to play 90 hours, but god i play it now and get really irritated.

I havent even been able to do a match because i get bored so quickly.

Think my love for fighting games has completely died.

 

[MnSG]

The up aerial is actually quite good for juggling purposes though.

assuming they dont air dodge.

That's basically where think like your opponent comes to play. Also, you can't air-dodge if you're in a helpless state, so there's that dilemma to keep in mind too.

I should probably point out that there are some people who have suggested that Greninja is very good, but it's actually a very overrated fighter once you find out that all of its specials can easily be punished, including Substitute. Add the fact that Greninja's KO moves are lacking, and its third jump is very hard to control, then you pretty much know that Greninja is nowhere near as good as Sheik.

what

I'm just the messenger. Someone from SmashBoards pretty much gave me the situation with Greninja.

No really, why do people think Greg is OP? He's definitely fast, but it's not like he has all of these crazy strong and safe moves. Water shurikens take a while to charge (nor can you save the charge), side b can be heavily punished, up b is good but takes skill to control, and down b can be punished even when you land it! Not to mention how the counter window is really small compared to others.

Let's compare that to Sheik now: needles can be saved and are easily spammable, down b can even be led into by the needles, down b is a safe recovery move, down b is a kill move, down b is practically completely safe on hit and you don't go into helpless after it, up b hits on start and on recovery, up b has a wind box when reappearing that will blow opponents away that don't get hit by the additional hitbox, and side b has a lot of utility but seems the most balanced.

Now even if we were to unreasonable say that Sheik and Greninja have identical regular sets, you would see that Sheik clearly trumps what Greg has.

 

[Lord Bowser]

i'm actually fairly decent with rosalina

btw, i am NOT a fan of the menu layout. i don't like it how all the solo modes are lumped into a big fat "games and others" category. ugh.

oh the horror


but in all honesty im actually sick of this game, surprised i managed to play 90 hours, but god i play it now and get really irritated.

I havent even been able to do a match because i get bored so quickly.

Think my love for fighting games has completely died.

how the hell are you bored with it already
it's been out barely a month