Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
MnSG said:
Has anyone else ever wondered if Rosalina could end up being Smash 4's Meta Knight? She apparently looks like someone who could potentially have very little, if any disadvantageous matchups, especially considering that the Luma can play a big factor on her capabilities.

This could surely leave a lot of characters feeling sour.

Who knows? They always show characters looking awesome in footage
 
MnSG said:
Has anyone else ever wondered if Rosalina could end up being Smash 4's Meta Knight? She apparently looks like someone who could potentially have very little, if any disadvantageous matchups, especially considering that the Luma can play a big factor on her capabilities.

This could surely leave a lot of characters feeling sour.

Every newcomer trailer is going to make the character look OP that's just how it is. If a newcomer ends up being one of the worst fighters in the game do you think they'll show them as such?

I think Rosalina's weakness is her height, she seems floaty. And with her tall stature, it isn't a good combination.
 
Plus combos may be less influential if there was a major anti-hitstun alteration
 
MnSG said:
Has anyone else ever wondered if Rosalina could end up being Smash 4's Meta Knight? She apparently looks like someone who could potentially have very little, if any disadvantageous matchups, especially considering that the Luma can play a big factor on her capabilities.

This could surely leave a lot of characters feeling sour.
Like SonicMario said, newcomers will seem OP, but it's just to appeal to the audience.

Smash 4 will most likely have a tier list, but probably not as overcentralizing like Brawl with Meta Knight (and some other characters). It would be (near) impossible to make sure EVERY match-up is even, so obviously, Rosalina will have the advantage against some characters, and have a disadvantage against others.

Though at worst, I think she'll be high tier. In Brawl, characters with item/character extensions ended up being high to top tier (such as Diddy with his banana peels, Snake and his grenades, Olimar and his Pikmin, and the Ice Climbers). Her Luma attacks seem just as good as Olimar's Pikmin attacks, if not, better.

From what I've seen, I think her Pros & Cons are:

Pros
- Attacks are separated so she can attack at a safe distance
- Lumas can absorb hit/projectiles (such as Samus' Charge Shots)
- Can manipulate projectiles (like she did with Mario's FLUDD)
- Can be easy to get grabs
- Recovery seems long

Cons
- Tall target
- Seems helpless without a Luma (but then again we don't know how she makes the Lumas appear, it could be like with Olimar and his Pikmin or like Popo and Nana, but I'm guessing the former as there was a Red Luma and her Yellow Luma)

Her KO power is unknown cause we don't get to see the %s of the opponents during the gameplay yet.
 
Northern Verve said:
MnSG said:
Has anyone else ever wondered if Rosalina could end up being Smash 4's Meta Knight? She apparently looks like someone who could potentially have very little, if any disadvantageous matchups, especially considering that the Luma can play a big factor on her capabilities.

This could surely leave a lot of characters feeling sour.

Every newcomer trailer is going to make the character look OP that's just how it is. If a newcomer ends up being one of the worst fighters in the game do you think they'll show them as such?

I think Rosalina's weakness is her height, she seems floaty. And with her tall stature, it isn't a good combination.
It looks like she'll suffer from the same problem Mewtwo had in Melee. Mewtwo was a big target was very floaty.

Not saying she'll be as bad as Mewtwo though. Now, if she was like Project M Mewtwo, then everyone should run for the hills.
 
Northern Verve said:
I think Rosalina's weakness is her height, she seems floaty. And with her tall stature, it isn't a good combination.

Perhaps, but it'll remain to be seen how efficient she'll be in a match. Having a Luma to deal with does mean that grabbing Rosalina will be very tough. And considering that Rosalina's Star Cursor Barrier can protect her from Mario's F.L.U.D.D., it might be able to do the same thing for all the other blockable projectiles.

Basically, Rosalina could prove to be a big threat for the fighters who heavily lack any long range attacks, as they'd have to get by the Luma first (and even then, a new Luma would take its place). And if it's true that Rosalina's Star Cursor Barrier protects against all blockable projectiles, attacking her from a distance will be out of the question.

Anyway, big target or not, Rosalina could still have the potential to have very few, if any matchup disadvantages. It just all comes down to how her overall fighting abilities will work out. Likewise, floaty characters aren't always considered lightweight; Samus is a perfect example of this case.