Unpopular opinions about the Mario series

No I'm saying that I'm annoyed that I saw an internet spoiler about Bowser and Antasma but that was before I read your post so don't worry.

I mean I can't stop people from discussing sensitive information about games anywhere on SM boards but if it's clearly a discussion involving someone who hasn't played it then I'd take a bit of care.

Oh right forgot the use of spoiler tags. How do you use them?
 
You can just type the word spoiler between square brakets [like so] and close the spoiler [/like so], except you type spoiler instead of "like so".

Ok, unpopular opinion time...

I agree that TTYD is a game that deserves a lot of praise, and I agree with the fact that it's a pretty good game.

But what makes the game so good is not at all the story. NOT AT ALL. It's no terrible story, mind you, but... it's not exactly what I'd call a story to shatter the earth and sky, really. If anything, it borrows a lot from its predecessor and many times, it feels to me like it's being a bit too "epic" for my tastes. The ONLY. I repeat, ONLY thing that makes this game really as enjoyable as it is to me is the gameplay.

Also, I can't stress it enough, the party members needed to have some dialogue together, instead of acting like Mario's braindead bodyguards. I mean, I shouldn't bring FE into this but it was made by the same company as specifically Paper Mario and it has a mechanic that lets your characters interact, and they should've made use of it somehow here. The only character that I fealt really got some development was Vivian, really. And all she has is starting out on the enemy side.

So yeah. TTYD's real claim to fame in my opinion is pretty much its core gameplay, mainly the battle system. The bosses are pretty good.
 
Nah the story was great. I prefer SPM's, but given how shallow most Mario games are, I'm glad to see an epic quest to a treasure in an ancient underground city, which:

Turns out to be an almighty ancient demon who kills Grodus and possesses Peach so you have to use the Crystal stars to stop her overthrowing the world

As for the partners I sort of agree with you in that they did not have enough dialogue together but they were still very relateable and they made me feel like the adventure had a sense of progress and familiarity.

I actually played this game before Paper Mario 1 which I still haven't played.
 
Fiora said:
You can just type the word spoiler between square brakets [like so] and close the spoiler [/like so], except you type spoiler instead of "like so".

Ok, unpopular opinion time...

I agree that TTYD is a game that deserves a lot of praise, and I agree with the fact that it's a pretty good game.

But what makes the game so good is not at all the story. NOT AT ALL. It's no terrible story, mind you, but... it's not exactly what I'd call a story to shatter the earth and sky, really. If anything, it borrows a lot from its predecessor and many times, it feels to me like it's being a bit too "epic" for my tastes. The ONLY. I repeat, ONLY thing that makes this game really as enjoyable as it is to me is the gameplay.

Also, I can't stress it enough, the party members needed to have some dialogue together, instead of acting like Mario's braindead bodyguards. I mean, I shouldn't bring FE into this but it was made by the same company as specifically Paper Mario and it has a mechanic that lets your characters interact, and they should've made use of it somehow here. The only character that I fealt really got some development was Vivian, really. And all she has is starting out on the enemy side.

So yeah. TTYD's real claim to fame in my opinion is pretty much its core gameplay, mainly the battle system. The bosses are pretty good.
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You can't even call it opinion, it's a fact that this game's story is really nothing special by the rpg genre standards.
 
I mean everyone seems to mainly praise it for its story so I thought it was justified to post that here.
 
Mcmadness said:
You can't even call it opinion, it's a fact that this game's story is really nothing special by the rpg genre standards.
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uh, it is an opinion

for example, i think partners in time has the best story ever made because it involves Baby Luigi killing a race of aliens
 
I know I'm not denying anyone the right not to be entertained by TTYD's story I'm saying why I am and that even without my personal bias it is a deep plot for a Mario game.
 
what happened in ttyd again? i know HAL 9000 appears in it except he's horny now.
 
But the partners do get unique dialogue throughout the game when talking to both main & side npc's. They do go through their whole plot development though on their own specific chapters that is true (except the above mentioned Vivian who sort of has plot multi-chapter), but there is some variant in npc chats depending on which partner you have out.