Boss appreciation/criticism thread

Having a boss fight that does throw all sorts of powerups at you would make for an interesting fight, just as long as they balance the powerup you get with a gauntlet of foes. Bowser can be hiding behind a wall where you have to throw frozen enemies to hit him or something. Or Bowser's in a spot where you have to use a Propeller Shroom to hit him.

I need to play Newer Super Mario Bros. DS in general though, but Newer Wii took me by surprise. Only bad thing is that friends don't respawn if they die, but I can't fault the dev team for not trying. It's impressive given how difficult it is to ASM hack.

I also prefer Newer's fights over the original too.
 
LeftyGreenMario said:
I don't see why not talk about unofficial mods. They sometimes come up with way better than the original.
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I've always found that whenever people say "What's the best X in video game series Y" it's assumed that we only include X's from official, unmodded, installations of Y unless otherwise stated.

Baby Luigi Rescuing Mario said:
Sorry about that, I've put that under a tab. I didn't know you were interested in playing the game at some point in the future nor did I know you have yet to play it. You should play it.

Though there is a lot of spoiler material in this thread so...
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Yeah I do want to but with my 3DS that I got recently (my old DS was so worn out that it was hardly playable) there's a lot of games I have in line for it and with PIT having been generally been considered the worst Mario RPG before SPM/SS (opinions on the former were obviously very split) and still one of the less popular ones, it's not my highest priority. And again my life is very busy rn.

Basically the Mario games I have played are here (aside from PM64, which I very strongly want to try, and Mini-Land Mayhem which I have sadly lost) and those I want to play are here.
 
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You know what boss was cool?

The Bowser jr fight in World 6 of NSMBWII. You get clown cars and you have to push him in the lasers. That was fun, wish it lasted longer tho.

If I want to criticize, though, BoneChill from SPM is really, really badly done. I like his design a lot, he looks intimidating, he's also got a nice entrance, and his theme's good, but Luigi wrecks the guy in two seconds, and trying to prolong the fight by using Thoreau is just kinda uninteresting.
 
MiracleDinner said:
Yeah I do want to but with my 3DS that I got recently (my old DS was so worn out that it was hardly playable) there's a lot of games I have in line for it and with PIT having been generally been considered the worst Mario RPG before SPM/SS (opinions on the former were obviously very split) and still one of the less popular ones, it's not my highest priority. And again my life is very busy rn.
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I went in with that mindset too, and yet I was taken by surprise how much fun I ended up having. Remember that weakest =/= bad, and even if you end up liking PiT the least, you will still enjoy it. A lot.

However you should play Dream Team because yada yada my favorite game of all time yada yada yada.
 
PiT is the best RPG ever made. It has the Mario Franchise's Best Character in it.
 
Fiora said:
You know what boss was cool?

The Bowser jr fight in World 6 of NSMBWII. You get clown cars and you have to push him in the lasers. That was fun, wish it lasted longer tho.

If I want to criticize, though, BoneChill from SPM is really, really badly done. I like his design a lot, he looks intimidating, he's also got a nice entrance, and his theme's good, but Luigi wrecks the guy in two seconds, and trying to prolong the fight by using Thoreau is just kinda uninteresting.
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Yeah I liked that Bowser Jr fight to

Sure Bonechill was broken gameplay-wise, but his design was epic and it was really interesting how closely he parodied Satan, and e.g. the thing about the prison being furtherst from the Sun so has the least warmth, so was icy, which is why Bonechill has ice etc.

It's alright if you just use Thoreau and Mario. Personally I was nine years old on my first playthrough (as I imagine were many players, which you'd expect for the first Mario game on the Wii not counting WarioWare smooth moves) so the broken battle system etc. wasn't really a problem which affected me the first time round.

As I said earlier Super Dimentio's my favourite boss. People like to knock him down for his easiness, but I love everything else about that final boss so much that I just forgive that and still put it at number one.

He's thirty-first on my Mario Chars fav list https://www.thetoptens.com/l/#333397/MiracleDinner though I sadly haven't put a comment for him there.

I hope they fix this fight if this game ever gets remade. But idk Nintendo doesn't seem to like SPM all that much if you get what I mean so I'm not very confident for that, but I'd obviously appreciate it extremely greatly.

YoshiFlutterJump said:
However you should play Dream Team because yada yada my favorite game of all time yada yada yada.
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Have you seen my userpage?
 
Mind you, easy bosses are ok. But braindead bosses aren't. I enjoy some mild difficulty here and there, just not when it's literally impossible to lose.
 
Fiora said:
Mind you, easy bosses are ok. But braindead bosses aren't. I enjoy some mild difficulty here and there, just not when it's literally impossible to lose.
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Oh come on Bonechill wasn't that bad.

Look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FtlgOR2y5w

That had several failed attempts!

I know it requires a cheat code but eh they're not that hard to use especially if you can load SPM on Dolphin. Or you could just do a low level run or grind negative points (never tried the latter before.)

And that was with Luigi not Thoreau!

And even if he was braindead easy I'd still love him for said reasons. I'd easily pick him over any Koopaling fight from NSMBW.
 
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I like him too, believe me. I just wish his battle was better. Major disappointment, and you don't even get to hear the boss theme all that much.

You gotta agree that it's the worst one in the game at least. Come on, you can't call THAT a boss fight when you can literally break it so much that even his death animation seems like more effort was put into it than the actual fight. (Oh yeah, I love the death animation btw)