General Discussion

Walkazo said:
Toa 95 said:
Time Turner said:
Hopping Tap-Tap - There's zero mention of any sort of jumping Tap-Taps on the wiki, but they're clearly shown separately. I have no idea if there are actual differences between them and regular Tap-Taps besides the jumping, though, and whether that'd be enough to justify separate articles.
The ones labeled as just Tap-Taps walk across the ground, while Hopping Tap-Taps hop in place.
Isn't there also a slight colour difference?

More than slight, since the hopping ones are grey and the walking ones are a peach color.
 
Walkazo said:
Toa 95 said:
Time Turner said:
Chomp Shark - The "guide" part of the guide consistently calls it a Chomp Shark, but the list calls it a Shark Chomp. It's a minor distinction, but which one takes priority?
They aren't named in-game from what I can tell (haven't actually beaten the entire game yet but I am close), but it should be fine as-is unless a name shows up in a later game, just list both names.
Yeah, add the second name to the page and as a redirect, but leave the article where it is: no sense changing things when we don't have to.

My point was simply which name should actually be used for the article: they're both valid names, but which one was "more" valid than the other?

Walkazo said:
Time Turner said:
Hefty Goonie - I want to verify if "Very Goonie", which is what the article is called, is solely derived from Moltz the Very Goonie. If so, since the species otherwise doesn't seem to ever be called "Very Goonie", Moltz aside, the article would default to Hefty, no?
I'd say just leave it as "Hefty Goonie" and don't worry about it unless more contrary information arises.

The article is currently titled "Very Goonie" after Moltz (since Hefty was apparently a questionable name), so Moltz the Very Goonie would actually be the contrary information that's arisen.

Walkazo said:
Toa 95 said:
Time Turner said:
Hopping Tap-Tap - There's zero mention of any sort of jumping Tap-Taps on the wiki, but they're clearly shown separately. I have no idea if there are actual differences between them and regular Tap-Taps besides the jumping, though, and whether that'd be enough to justify separate articles.
The ones labeled as just Tap-Taps walk across the ground, while Hopping Tap-Taps hop in place.
Isn't there also a slight colour difference?
Judging by the guide, the Jumping Tap-Taps are black whereas the regular ones are light brown. I suppose that's enough to warrant a separate article, isn't it?
 
Time Turner said:
Chomp Shark - The "guide" part of the guide consistently calls it a Chomp Shark, but the list calls it a Shark Chomp. It's a minor distinction, but which one takes priority?
Time Turner said:
Walkazo said:
Toa 95 said:
They aren't named in-game from what I can tell (haven't actually beaten the entire game yet but I am close), but it should be fine as-is unless a name shows up in a later game, just list both names.
Yeah, add the second name to the page and as a redirect, but leave the article where it is: no sense changing things when we don't have to.
My point was simply which name should actually be used for the article: they're both valid names, but which one was "more" valid than the other?
Yeah, I got that (and I think Toa 95 did too), but if both names come from a guide, then they're equivalent in the eyes of MW:Naming and whatnot so there's no clear right or wrong answer. I guess you could go by whatever name shows up more often in the book, but even then, it's getting into judgement-call territory, and we might as well just stick with the established name we've been using all this time - unless we're given a good reason to change things up.

Time Turner said:
The article is currently titled "Very Goonie" after Moltz (since Hefty was apparently a questionable name), so Moltz the Very Goonie would actually be the contrary information that's arisen.
Oops, didn't bother clicking the link (my computer's being laggy as all hell tonight so I'm avoiding loading pages if I can) and assumed it was the article, not a redirect. Anyway, the guide explicitly calling them "Hefty Goonies" overrides extracting the "Very Goonie" name from the single boss's title (which is a dubious practice that should only be used when no clear name is provided - that's not the case here anymore).

Toa 95 said:
Walkazo said:
Toa 95 said:
Time Turner said:
Hopping Tap-Tap - There's zero mention of any sort of jumping Tap-Taps on the wiki, but they're clearly shown separately. I have no idea if there are actual differences between them and regular Tap-Taps besides the jumping, though, and whether that'd be enough to justify separate articles.
The ones labeled as just Tap-Taps walk across the ground, while Hopping Tap-Taps hop in place.
Isn't there also a slight colour difference?
More than slight, since the hopping ones are grey and the walking ones are a peach color.
Time Turner said:
Judging by the guide, the Jumping Tap-Taps are black whereas the regular ones are light brown. I suppose that's enough to warrant a separate article, isn't it?
Yeah, sounds like the Tap-Tap page can be split.
 
With the Tap Taps if I remember rightly there were brown and silver ones in SMW2, I do remember silver ones hopping, but I'm fairly certain when silver ones were just normally walking they'd turn around when they met an edge of a platform whereas the brown ones kept on walking, so maybe a split based colour instead.
 
Although in that case, we'd have to spit Red and Green Koopa Troopas, an that's a slipperly slope we'd be better off avoiding. At least the Tap Taps also appear in different areas, right? But I dunno, I'm starting to wonder now...
 
Well, you wanted to split the Green Toady from the Solo Toady based on its appearance and actions, right? Wouldn't the Hopping vs. non-hopping be the same thing?
 
Hopping vs. walking and walking off cliffs vs. not walking off cliffs are different than floating around on the stage and snatching the baby from Yoshi if encountered vs. swooping out of nowhere to nab the dislodged baby. I just worry about getting too split-happy. However, while Red and Green Koopa Troopas are different in some games (and listed separately in enemy rosters), they're the same save for colouration in others (plus there's other colours involved), so we can use that to counter any arguments that if we split the Tap-Tap pages, we have to split the Koopas, so it's probably fine.
 
There's a bit of inconsistency when it comes to covering characters' appearances in various episodes of the cartoons. Lemmy an article for all of the cartoons (List of DIC cartoon episodes featuring Hip Koopa) and Mario has two (List of Super Mario World episodes featuring Mario) different (List of The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episodes featuring Mario) articles for different cartoons. The thing is, Lemmy and Mario are seemingly the only characters to have these separate lists. I'm not sure if there was a proposal that nobody bothered to fully implement or if it's just a couple of users that decided this, but in any case, should we create articles that list every character's role in every episode, or should that be left for the main article? Regardless, Mario and Lemmy are outliers, so something has to be decided.
 
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Donkey_Kong_Country_episodes_featuring_Candy_Kong
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Donkey_Kong_Country_episodes_featuring_Donkey_Kong

every recurring characters in the animated shows is supposed to have these pages for episodes-by-episodes summary.