What the flying freak is found in our food?

I know vegetarians/vegans who claim insects and seafood don't count as meat
it pisses me off when they act all high and mighty about it (especially since its completely wrong)

for example, this conversation

"I am a vegetarian, I'm better than you because I don't eat dead pigs!"

"yah...... but while I'm here eating chicken, your eating fish, and I don't even eat pigs, I don't like the taste"

"fish aren't animals, its only meat if it comes from animals"

fish and arthropods are animals, and so are shellfish
I make an effort to buy free range "cruelty free" meat, but my vegetarian cousin (the same one who eats fish) still wont shut up about how shes better than me because I eat meat
 
Oh well. You should cook bacon in front of her face and tempt her with it. Meat is an underrated food: the right type of meat is an excellent source of omega-3, iron, and protein, and one would have to eat twice as much plant material to achieve what meat can do. We are omnivores anyway: we're built to eat both vegetables and meat. The problem, as usual, is portion distortion: a typical serving size of meat should be about the same as a deck of cards yet we at America supersize everything so we eat more.

BTW, tell your cousin if the organism is a consumer and multi-cellular, it's an animal. Yes, that means sea cucumbers aren't vegetarian food.
 
i don't have a complete understanding of it, but fish, and to a much greater extent, arthropods, have extremely limited nervous system and could never understand pain on the same levels a mammal could
 
I highly doubt that for fish
but with arthropods, I believe their nervous systems don't register pain the same way they do in a "higher animal"
the same goes for shellfish

but that is still a matter of scientific debate, cephalopods have been proven to experience pain in a similar way to a bird/mammal/reptile, so I could imagine a fish, and perhaps even an arthropod could too

and I've tried telling her, shes 7 and doesn't care what anyone tells her
 
Doctor Walter Bishop said:
i don't have a complete understanding of it, but fish, and to a much greater extent, arthropods, have extremely limited nervous system and could never understand pain on the same levels a mammal could
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can you prove that
 
Thrawn said:
Baby Luigi said:
BTW, tell your cousin if the organism is a consumer and multi-cellular, it's an animal.
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...venus flytraps are animals now?
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they are still only partially consumers
they still undergo photosynthesis
the insects they catch are to replace nutrients that otherwise would be found in the soil (since they grow in bogs)


Shoutmon said:
Doctor Walter Bishop said:
i don't have a complete understanding of it, but fish, and to a much greater extent, arthropods, have extremely limited nervous system and could never understand pain on the same levels a mammal could
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can you prove that
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considering some fish are smarter than some mammals, I'm fairly positive fish would feel pain in the same way
theres also the fact that all vertebrates are descended from fish, meaning its likely we share a similar nervous system
 
> missing the joke

any first grader could tell you that a venus flytrap is a plant, not an animal

i was just pointing out that BLOF's comment was flawed
 
Thrawn said:
> missing the joke

any first grader could tell you that a venus flytrap is a plant, not an animal

i was just pointing out that BLOF's comment was flawed
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I understood what you meant
I was just pointing out that no plant is a true consumer
although come to think of it, many fungi and bacteria are, so yes BLOF wasn't entirely correct
 
I know it's flawed. That's not my point, entirely. I'm not good with definitions and I knew that my description lacked something.
 
Baby Luigi said:
I know it's flawed. That's not my point, entirely. I'm not good with definitions and I knew that my description lacked something.
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it's not a total loss. i got a good laugh out of it