Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Lakituthequick said:
My favourite kart combo still works as I expect it to so I don't mind anything yet.
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Lucky for you then, since my own main combo from Mario Kart 8 (Rosalina + Biddybuggy + Azure Roller + Parachute) had its speed and weight stats nerfed, while the handling and traction stats got buffed; acceleration did not change.

But the worst part of the story is that if I switched from Rosalina to Metal Mario, Metal Mario would end up getting better speed and weight, the same amount of acceleration, and a smaller body frame, while the only drawback is a traction decrease, which isn't all that drastic. Sure, I'm fine with Metal Mario being present, but if you have to resort to Metal Mario or Pink Gold Peach to have any chance of winning in MK8D, then you definitely know that Nintendo messed up big time with the stat balancing.

I don't even own a Nintendo Switch right now, and I'm already seeing that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's only real saving grace is its better Battle Mode.
 
Eren Jäger said:
i played online one match vs. 80% metal marios so im assuming they're still op.
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You joined me in a few online matches and I don't remember there being too many Metal Marios in them, if any at all. Though this was mostly a certain streamer's community so idk
 
MnSG said:
If people are giving Mario Kart 8 Deluxe good reviews right off the bat, they should really compare the pros and cons between MK8 and MK8D. A better Battle Mode and five extra characters in MK8D doesn't change the fact that the stat balancing is atrocious, and the game reuses the exact same 48 tracks that are in MK8, so you're literally not getting anything new in regards to the Grand Prix mode.
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Or maybe they don't really care about any of this. It's Mario Kart, a dumb party game. It's not made for balance. For most people, it's the same game plus more content. Literally no downside.
 
GalacticPetey said:
Or maybe they don't really care about any of this. It's Mario Kart, a dumb party game. It's not made for balance. For most people, it's the same game plus more content. Literally no downside.
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Still, if you're a Wii U owner, I don't see any real reason to be ditching MK8 for MK8D, unless you're a Battle Mode fan.
 
I played battle mode with a friend today, helped him purchase this game. Several thoughts I'd like to discuss.

*I want to shove a Piranha Plant up Daisy's ass in Renegade Roundup. Goddamit it.
*The sliding around mechanic in battle mode? I hate it. I slip and slide all over the place like a drunk driver, and I can't fully stop the car, when this mechanic is required for optimal performance in battle mode. It may have worked in Mario Kart 8's system with its long and snaking tracks, but not here, where you frequently need to make stops and turns.
*It's fun targeting Wario, and it's fun to see the words "BABY LUIGI CAUGHT WARIO" in Renegade Roundup. Wish I had time to play with it more, I suck at the mode, not having won as a renegade once.
*Playing with the joycon is awful, and the worst part is, since my friend didn't bring the dock thing over, we had to play on a really tiny screen and it sucks. The map is really hard to see, and the maps can be annoying to navigate, especially if going after that fat man.

I mean I sound like I complain a lot, but really, I just don't like playing with the joycon controller on a tiny screen. I LOVE the battle modes otherwise, and I really want to get accustomed to these sloppy controls, that's how much I love them.
 
So I decided to calculate the stats of one of the combos I use, which is this one. I'm not counting hidden stats.

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MK8
Speed: 4.5/6
Acceleration: 2.25/6
Weight: 4.25/6
Handling: 2.5/6
Traction: 3/6

MK8D
Speed: 4.25/6
Acceleration: 3/6
Weight: 4/6
Handling: 2.5/6
Traction: 3.5/6

The stats didn't change as much as I thought they would.
 
Just a minor thing I noticed but on the minimap when a Bob-omb or a Spiny Shell explodes, a small orange or blue dot appears on the map. I like that.
 
Anyone here that has both? What are your thoughts on double dipping, is it worth it?

GalacticPetey said:
Or maybe they don't really care about any of this. It's Mario Kart, a dumb party game. It's not made for balance. For most people, it's the same game plus more content. Literally no downside.
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smash is a party game too

Still making the balance better makes the online better which would've been nice, but it looks about the same really :/
 
Smash has more intricacies and potential for a competitive fighting game. Nothing in any of the Mario Kart games reaches the technical depths of Melee or even Smash 4.