Unpopular opinions about the Mario series

YoshiFlutterJump

Power Star
Awards Committee
Speaking of which, what is Dry Bowser's relationship to Bowser? Are they confirmed to be different people? 🤔
Island Tour says yes, NSMB and MP10 say no. Conflicting reports here.

My personal headcanon is that, after NSMB, Kamek saw the potential in a skeletal Bowser and created a species of skeletal Bowser clones (with the Island Tour one being one of them).
 

Mcmadness

The idiot who puts things in the wrong board.
Does this count a remake of Paper Mario on the N64 if they didn't get Bowser right on the main installment?
Well if they want to remake the first game I won't stop em but he's never remotely been able to live up to that first game.

Also since Mario Party is nothing but doing terrible things to your friends and relatives pretending to be family fun the next Mario Party hosts should be like Damon Killian from The Running man.
 

Penguin Mario

🐧Penguins. Lots of them.🐧🐧🐧🐧
I can imagine why people hate it: it's overloaded with discordant guitars before it loops, and the background riff at the beginning just seems really repetitive and overpowering. It also loops really early. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's abominable Battle Course 1 or Luigi's Mansion, though.
 

Mcmadness

The idiot who puts things in the wrong board.
I don't. They'll probably just be more generic pretty girl types because Japan loves that shit.
 

Рождественский Рэй Трейс

The Protector Who Gets The Most Presents
Wiki Patroller
I don't. They'll probably just be more generic pretty girl types because Japan loves that shit.
Like Peach, Daisy, Pauline, and Rosalina?

I'm not a huge fan of how they all practically look the same. We have disgusting ugly male human characters in the form of Wario and Waluigi alongside Mario and Luigi (who arguably aren't designed to be pretty boy types just cute and appealing) while practically all human females are all skinny and pretty.

Of course, I think this is also an industry-wide problem with lack of human female variety of body shapes but let's stick with Mario for now.
 

Рождественский Рэй Трейс

The Protector Who Gets The Most Presents
Wiki Patroller
fat and twig people typically don't have large bulbous pink noses, handlebar mustaches, whatever those blue outlines on their eyes are supposed to be, constantly grinning and scowling, clogs for shoes, pointy ears, and get blown up by an airship filled with bombs at a tennis tournament in a failed attempt to sabotage against their winners.
 

Capnap

Splashmouse
Like Peach, Daisy, Pauline, and Rosalina?

I'm not a huge fan of how they all practically look the same. We have disgusting ugly male human characters in the form of Wario and Waluigi alongside Mario and Luigi (who arguably aren't designed to be pretty boy types just cute and appealing) while practically all human females are all skinny and pretty.

Of course, I think this is also an industry-wide problem with lack of human female variety of body shapes but let's stick with Mario for now.
One reason I wish there were non-paper versions of Paper Mario's partners for spin-off's. Or I suppose they could remain paper, that'd be funny, like if in Kart 9 the wind would bend them backwards.
Or I suppose like above stated some more cartoonish unconventionally shaped human women to match the mens silliness.
Because like, I guess for nonhumans we do have Birdo, Toadette, and Wendy.
Now I wish for both paper partners and new humans.

On another note, of the debate on wether or not non-mario characters in MK8D was necessarry,
Wouldn't it be better if Nintendo put in Mario RPG characters into the sports games instead of Link and Isabelle for example?
 
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Super Paper Fangirl

SPM Trash
Forum Moderator
I agree with that, I think all these Mario rosters are such great opportunities to expose the more niche characters to a wider audience instead of playing it safe and only using pre-established mainstream characters. I think Mario is currently a very recognizable brand, but not a recognizable fandom. Lately it's been trying to remedy that by bringing older characters such as Pauline back into the spotlight, while she's always been more recognizable than the RPG characters, she was more or less replaced by Peach and became exclusive to the Mario vs. DK series. When Odyssey included her, her popularity skyrocketed and made her a mainstay. Who says that wouldn't work with more characters that are currently only in niche spinoffs?
 

Capnap

Splashmouse
Follow up, imo mario spin-off characters would be better than non-mario characters in sport rosters, however,
the best alternative to non-mario characters would be More Main Mario series generic species characters in the roster.
That was a mouthful.

Reason is I think Nintendo is right that spinoff characters would "reduce the quality by losing the effect of consistency, with the illusion of an OC mess, and turn away casual & newby players"

Buuuut, I don't see the harm of spin-off's being DLC. We know the niche/cult mario rpg fandoms would rejoice!
 

Mcmadness

The idiot who puts things in the wrong board.
Except for the fact that there are dozens of Mario spin offs with their own creations and I see no reason why they should give the rpgs any kind of special treatment over them.

Wario and Waluigi are overrated imo
I don't really like them
Waluigi is whatever but Wario ain't overrated.
 

MiracleDinner

Paper Mario, M&L, Super Mario, Disney, TTG fangirl
Wario ain't overrated.
He seems decently popular and I don't like him. At least he's overrated in my opinion. But I don't really play a lot of games that feature him so I can understand why it is that I don't like him when some other people might.
 

Capnap

Splashmouse
I feel he's underrated, how many consoles ago was his last platformer? I don't like how he's been reduced to a minigame mascot.. the only thing I really like about Warioware is the cutscenes and manuals, or really everything but the minigames xD
 

J-Yoshi64

Always remembering Walkazo
There are a lot of unique human players in the old golf and tennis games, too.
 
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