What else will we get from Nintendo Switch 2?

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Well we've got a couple of new games on NS2 so far. I assume Bananza counts as a new format of DKC 3D game, we also have several Mario titles that are direct sequels to the ones we have.

So what else do you believe we will have? Do you think it's possible for us to get some brand new titles like Super Princess Peach for NS1?

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*Post pics only serve as showcase, not necessarily fixed options.

*"Mainline" includes games that come with action gameplay and focus on a unique journey except from RPGs, which also count games like Super Princess Peach and Donkey Kong Country.

*"Spinoffs" includes games that come with party/sport concept and must have an all-stars roster.
 
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I mean new subjects for spin-offs just sounds great in general. It's a fantastic way to get Mario fans to try out new games in genres they wouldn't try out otherwise, plus it acts as sort of a springboard to explore it. I really loved what Mario + Rabbids did, made XCOM lite palatable for Mario players, so I'd expect the same thing for new spin-offs. The showcased spinoff, the Mario skateboarding game, is a game I would really be excited for if they announced it.
 
If the Nintendo Switch 2's active period is about as long as the Nintendo Switch, we might get the bigger heavy hitters eventually, at least. Which by my estimation would be:
  • Mario Kart (released)
  • Donkey Kong (released)
  • Mario Tennis (announced with date)
  • Yoshi (announced with window)
  • NS2 exclusive 3D Super Mario platformer game
  • NS2 exclusive 2D Super Mario platformer game
  • NS2 exclusive Mario Party game
  • Mario Golf
  • Luigi's Mansion
  • WarioWare (the higher price point for NS2 games would be interesting to see how this fares)
I am unsure if Dr. Mario will even get a release at this point, especially as a Switch 2 exclusive. It's still not gotten a new game on the Nintendo Switch, and I hope it's a new game and not merely a "Dr. Mario 99" that seems like the most predictable suggestion, because it would mean a dead end for the series since such a game would inevitably be about the 8-bit games, as though the series has no future (unlike even Mario Golf, which still has less sales than Dr. Mario, thanks to a great headstart).

Some wild predictions that I'll make:
  • New game featuring a character who's never gotten a game before.
  • Another Mario crossover with an unexpected IP, similar to what Mario + Rabbids is.
  • Mario & Sonic getting a new game, could be another Olympics game or just a new direction
  • New Mario sport that didn't get a new game dedicated to it. Could this be the horse racing's time to shine?
  • New Mario platformer in the vein of the Donkey Kong arcade (I want this the most: I would love to see how Mario's platforming heritage could evolve from this, since Super Mario platformers have a rich history on how the platforming evolves)
Thank you for reading.
 
winstein said:
If the Nintendo Switch 2's active period is about as long as the Nintendo Switch, we might get the bigger heavy hitters eventually, at least. Which by my estimation would be:
  • Mario Kart (released)
  • Donkey Kong (released)
  • Mario Tennis (announced with date)
  • Yoshi (announced with window)
  • NS2 exclusive 3D Super Mario platformer game
  • NS2 exclusive 2D Super Mario platformer game
  • NS2 exclusive Mario Party game
  • Mario Golf
  • Luigi's Mansion
  • WarioWare (the higher price point for NS2 games would be interesting to see how this fares)
I am unsure if Dr. Mario will even get a release at this point, especially as a Switch 2 exclusive. It's still not gotten a new game on the Nintendo Switch, and I hope it's a new game and not merely a "Dr. Mario 99" that seems like the most predictable suggestion, because it would mean a dead end for the series since such a game would inevitably be about the 8-bit games, as though the series has no future (unlike even Mario Golf, which still has less sales than Dr. Mario, thanks to a great headstart).

Some wild predictions that I'll make:
  • New game featuring a character who's never gotten a game before.
  • Another Mario crossover with an unexpected IP, similar to what Mario + Rabbids is.
  • Mario & Sonic getting a new game, could be another Olympics game or just a new direction
  • New Mario sport that didn't get a new game dedicated to it. Could this be the horse racing's time to shine?
  • New Mario platformer in the vein of the Donkey Kong arcade (I want this the most: I would love to see how Mario's platforming heritage could evolve from this, since Super Mario platformers have a rich history on how the platforming evolves)
Thank you for reading.
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I've always thought Mario and Kirby could take place in the same universe and I would love to see the franchises cross paths outside of Super Smash Bros.
 
Not holding my breath for it but a Mario Warriors, a musou hack-n-slash game with Mario characters basically, would have me consider getting the thing second-hand.

I also think while Jamboree + The Long Game Name is out, the Switch 2 is *probably* going to get a Mario Party, as most consoles have at least two Mario Party (we don't speak about the Wii U here).
 
I'm hoping for a Mario Maker of some kind (please bring 3 that's quite advanced), but I'm also hoping a style of Mario Party game similar to Superstars that goes even further beyond what has been done already. Perhaps 10 boards from across the original 8, over 50/60 items, and 150/200+ minigames. Personally, I hope for one board from each game, as well as roughly 20-30 minigames per game.
 
There's nothing wrong with using AI to generate a conceptual image to illustrate a quick forum post, it's not any worse than just compiling stock art and a logo together.

I'd recommend sourcing the image to say it was AI generated but...idk man, it's not any different than saying "this post was made with photoshop.*

I do not want to encourage AI image witch hunts around here.
 
I need to see how Mario Tennis Fever goes before I'm sold on the concept of Mario Baseball 3. The likes of Mario Tennis Aces, Mario Golf: Super Rush, and Mario Strikers: Battle League have disillusioned me as far as new sports games go.
 
I'm an avid sports games fan and I'm also disillusioned by the state of the recent Mario sports games, but when I say I want a new Mario Baseball, I'm just running on the assumption that it would be given the treatment it deserves. Same with the new Mario Skateboarding game, which I think would be rad as hell.


here look at how cool this looks to skateboard in super mario sunshine levels
 
Xiahou Ba said:
There's nothing wrong with using AI to generate a conceptual image to illustrate a quick forum post, it's not any worse than just compiling stock art and a logo together.

I'd recommend sourcing the image to say it was AI generated but...idk man, it's not any different than saying "this post was made with photoshop.*

I do not want to encourage AI image witch hunts around here.
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I should specify that i was saying that as myself, not with any mod authority behind it. Nor do I believe it was being used with malicious intent here. I just personally believe that genAI is a much different thing from designing something in Photoshop, as it has a negative effect on the environment and is trained on data from artists who did not consent to have their work used in this way. Plus it just lacks the human touch, making it feel offputting and uncanny. The tools we had prior to genAI were more than sufficient for the purposes of visualizing whatever we needed to visualize.

Compiling renders & a logo, provided proper credit is given for any fanmade assets, is far and away a more admirable method because it doesn't destroy the environment, doesn't mutilate the work of other artists into something unholy and doesn't lose the human touch. You don't have to be good at art to find some renders and throw them together to illustrate something. There are ethical uses for AI, but in my opinion genAI is not one of them. When it first came around, it was like a new toy, we all had our fun with it, but the ethics surrounding it became known pretty quickly. The convenience, even for something small, doesn't outweigh the ramifications in my opinion.

Nowadays I just get really bothered when i see it being used, especially in fandom spaces that have historically been creatively driven, like not out of anger at the person using it but out of disappointment that it's become this normalized to the point where people don't think about the ethics of it, or think that they only apply in certain contexts, and this common to the point where it's easy to find it in google searches and mistake it for real art. Even I'm not immune to that, I've been tricked by AI images & videos before and always feel so shameful when i realize that mistake. So I think pointing it out and making an effort to avoid it is important.

Anyways, my answer to the OP's question is pretty similar to what it has generally been at the start of any console generation. I expect a new 3D Mario, new RPG(s), and a Mario Golf game to exist, in addition to the ones that we've already gotten/are getting like Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Mario Tennis. Outside that stuff, I hope we get Mario Maker 3 and a new Mario Baseball assuming it doesn't gimp the roster or cut characters from Sluggers that have since developed a reputation for being missing. I also hope Super Paper Mario gets a remake, and i still maintain the age-old hope that one day Nintendo starts letting the spinoff rosters pull from extended Marioverse/non-EPD source material.

One idea I like is having a Smash style fighting game that is fully Mario-centric and targeted at the more invested parts of the fanbase (while still serving as a great introduction for casual players to source material they haven't seen). Thematically it could then go all in with the Mario aesthetic instead of needing to balance that with a "Smash Bros" aesthetic & theme. Of course it would pull from the aforementioned extended Marioverse and have stages & characters based on all manner of Mario games. Be it Count Bleck vs. Plum vs. King K. Rool on Vibe Island, or Waluigi vs. Reclusa vs. Captain Syrup vs. Vivian on Bowser's Keep. Sadly I can't think of a developer who would do this idea justice outside Sakurai and I can't see him working on a standalone Mario game.

Alternatively you could do a similar idea but with a slightly more focused theme: Mario Villains. Still from all the source material, but specifically villains and bosses. I even came up with a design in my head for a "host" for such an event, an evil member of the Shaman tribe who can travel through time gathering a roster of villains for this brawl (and serve as the final boss of the single player mode). These are pipe dream ideas that probably lean too far into the realm of fanfiction, but goddamn it I want to believe SOME sort of roster game that uses the extended Marioverse will become tangible one day.
 
Antasma said:
as it has a negative effect on the environment
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The rest of your post is a philosophical difference that I don't think that it's worth getting into an argument over (if generating AI is art or if copying an artstyle in an artificial manner quickly and accurately can be considered stealing), as that's a different POV that I would respectively disagree with but I absolutely have to address genAI's negative effect on the environment, which has been vastly overstated and vastly had the wrong blame for (in which energy consumption is entirely an energy grid, infrastructure issue and cannot be pinned on a single source). The massive issue with genAI production isn't because generating an image of Mario skateboarding in of itself to use in a Marioboards forums post uses a lot of energy, but because the swift and reckless demand from the tech industry has called forth building more energy intensive data centers, which rely on an electrical grid that is primarily powered by fossil fuels, hence why there are some alarms and headlines sounded over the increased demands of data centers being constructing to meet the demand of energy over training LLMs. Furthermore, training images that the data centers do calls for is the primary cause of concern as that can eat up a ton of computing power, but in terms of generating AI images, generation uses less energy than leaving your computer running as you meticulously and manually alter images with an image software tool, or even running games, since more images can be generated in a lesser amount of time than taking time to input and compile a single image, plus data centers are not created solely to train AI images, and they have other uses as well.

This also ignores the fact that AI image generation can also completely locally sourced from your own computer too, which does not have any worse effect on the environment than prompting on websites owned by massive tech corporations and bypasses all environmental concerns. You can download Stable Diffusion on your computer and have it run completely offline, hell the Draw Things app runs entirely on your phone's specs.

in short, the main issue the articles you read online that chalk up the environmental impact AI image generation basically boil down to these: big companies are reckless in their pursuit of wealth and lack regulatory oversight, and fossil fuels are a horrendous, inefficient, and very dirty source of energy that we desperately need to replace.
 
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It feels like we're debating about AI art endlessly every other day of the week. It's tedious seeing this thing over and over. I had some faith that the small piece of mario skateboarding created or found(?) just for the sake of a topic (versus what, hunting down and sourcing specific fanart buried in xitter somewhere???) would be eyerolling but unremarkable and we'd stay on topic for once, but I guess not.
 
Dorayaki said:
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Well we've got a couple of new games on NS2 so far. I assume Bananza counts as a new format of DKC 3D game, we also have several Mario titles that are direct sequels to the ones we have.

So what else do you believe we will have? Do you think it's possible for us to get some brand new titles like Super Princess Peach for NS1?

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*Post pics only serve as showcase, not necessarily fixed options.

*"Mainline" includes games that come with action gameplay and focus on a unique journey except from RPGs, which also count games like Super Princess Peach and Donkey Kong Country.

*"Spinoffs" includes games that come with party/sport concept and must have an all-stars roster.
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What these video game pictures.
I like the SUPER WALUIGI ODYSSEY and Toadhawks one
 
I'm not really big on Switch 2 considering the inflated prices of the new games. I wouldn't be surprised if TTYD got a Switch 2 expansion, but then again, I'm pretty much at my limit with what Nintendo's cooking up these days.
 
Maybe we'll get a port or a follow up to Mario Sports Mix. I really hope we do!
 
Dorayaki said:
Not sure about odds of DKC's spinoffs or RPGs, in terms of mainline it's supposed to be possible to still get a different game on NS2, consider Bananza was a postponed project from NS1 era.
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I guess, but just because a game was developed for a previous console in mind but ended up in its successor, does not mean that they get a new game later in that console's life. As an example, Super Paper Mario was made for the Gamecube but was repurposed for the Wii, but that didn't translate to a second new Paper Mario game on the same console. Likewise for Luigi's Mansion 3 which started on the Wii U but ended up on the Nintendo Switch, but that didn't mean a new Luigi's Mansion got a release later in its cycle (it did have a port of a previous game though: Luigi's Mansion 2 HD). So I think it's likelier that a port of an existing Donkey Kong (platformer) game gets released in its cycle.

Thank you for reading.
 
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I know this thread has been touched in weeks, lol, but I do want to give some suggestions. 1, I could definitely see Princess Peach: Showtime! getting a Switch 2 edition, 2, I could see us getting a brand-new Mario RPG, whether it's Paper Mario or Mario and Luigi, and 3, I think we could see the return of previously retired series like Mario Baseball or Mario Vs Donkey Kong.
 
How about a Mario and Kirby crossover? They crossed over Mario and Sonic as well as Mario and Rabbids. This wouldn't be too big a stretch. Besides, I feel Mario and Kirby could possibly take place in the same universe due to their similar art styles.
 
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