Interesting discovery regarding Bayonetta and the ballot

GalacticPetey

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Do note: None of this is 100% confirmed and I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but the evidence here is pretty damning.

https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1013925354682101760

Basically in update 1.0.6 of Smash 4, when Mewtwo was added, placeholder slots were added for the following characters: Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. The only one missing is Corrin and we know that he was added later as a promo character. Now, we already knew about Lucas at this point and this lines up with the datamined Roy and Ryu that followed shortly. Now, Cloud and Bayonetta are the odd ones out here. These slots were copied from characters with similar parameters. Ike for Cloud and ZSS for Bayonetta.

Why is this important? Well this means that Bayonetta was planned in April and only two weeks after the ballot went live. With this in mind, there's no way Bayonetta was the actual ballot winner. I know people were skeptical, but this pretty much confirms it.

Going forward this means one of two things. One, the ballot never mattered at all. Or two, it DID matter, but it's being used for Ultimate. And with Sakurai seemingly going out of his way to please the fans, that's very possible.
 
Well since the roster was finalized in 2015, and we got both Ridley and Inkling (two highly requested characters, heck I voted Ridley), and not to mention that Sakurai has been focusing on fan-demand lately, my guess is that the ballot's true purpose was for Ultimate.
 
Which bodes well for big fan favorites who would struggle to get in normally. Characters like Isaac and King K. Rool have never been in a better position.
 
So it was for Ultimate, but they decided to add Bayonetta because they had the time, and left Ridley, who might be the actual winner to appear Ultimate to surprise fans?
 
Captain America said:
Basically in update 1.0.6 of Smash 4, when Mewtwo was added, placeholder slots were added for the following characters: Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta.[...]there's no way Bayonetta was the actual ballot winner.

I knew there was another reason why I didn't like Bayonetta. Now I know what it is.

Regardless, I hope all my votes for Isaac mean something in Ultimate :smug:
 
Most important takeaway from all of this though:
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To quote someone on SmashBoards.

The problem isn't that Bayonetta didn't 'win'.

The problem is that the community decided that the ballot was something that could be won

I'll admit my language about Bayonetta "winning" in the OP was misleading.
 
If this means I'm potentially getting my boy Shovel Knight in Ultimate then count me the fuck in
 
I voted for Daisy and Waluigi from two different areas, and while I've got one in so far, I am curious on where Waluigi is placed in the rankings, since he's got a resurgence around the time of E3, and the apparent disappointment that came with the Assist Trophy once again.

Thank you for reading.
 
When it comes to the Smash Ballot conspiracy theories they say that the Smash Ballot was for Ultimate and that they rigged the ballot to make Bayonetta get into Smash. Also on SmashFAQs as we Smashers in the Ultimate board on GameFAQs call it, I heard that nobody voted for Bayonetta, it was rigged (which I mentioned earlier in this post), that Sakurai put her in despite not winning the ballot, yeah so those conspiracy theories are out of control since that tweet.
 
the one thing they probably won't (or shouldn't) do is reveal the ballot results even after ultimate is out, unless they did actually put all the top 10 characters in the game or something

the whinging would still be incessant