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I mean, no politician ever delivers on everything they promise to do.
It's just an indication of what they might attempt to do.
It's just an indication of what they might attempt to do.
Who are you voting for (or would vote for if you could)?
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True, but I feel like in Bernie's case, his things are even more unrealistic.
Why do you feel that?
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anyone but trump
i'm going to vote democrat regardless of if it's clinton or sanders because trump is trump and cruz is cruz and kasich won't win
i'm going to vote democrat regardless of if it's clinton or sanders because trump is trump and cruz is cruz and kasich won't win
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Honestly, there's no good choices. Cruz is annoying and way too conservative to the point it's a joke, Kasich's okay but has like a 0% chance of getting the Republican nomination, Trump is, well, Trump, Bernie will (in a nutshell) pushes too many socialist ideas and won't be good for the middle class or upper class (many of which worked hard to get there) and costs way too much, and Hillary, eh, haven't looked at her too much, but she doesn't seem appealing.
I guess that leaves me with Deez Nuts.
I guess that leaves me with Deez Nuts.
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Why not just elect Sarah Palin?
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While I like Sanders the best I agree his goals are too unrealistic...like for example, while I like his policy on Wall Street, the Panama Papers prove people can and will evade taxes using whatever means possible if they really want to. That, and Wall Street will stay in politics since people are people and will continue to be swayed by money.
as you can see im a bit on the pessimistic side and at this point i think i should seriously consider third parties instead if we get clinton and trump/cruz in the general election
as you can see im a bit on the pessimistic side and at this point i think i should seriously consider third parties instead if we get clinton and trump/cruz in the general election
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lol what are you talking about? What are you implying that "many of which worked hard to get there"? That welfare nets are for lazy people? That we're going to redistribute wealth (that argument is billshot by the way)? I think the middle class would benefit from universal health care. Don't you think universal health care should be a right? Don't you think the super poor work extremely hard and still struggle to make a living? No one wants to be poor, and people do derive satisfaction from working. The U.S.'s current healthcare system, the one where there are multiple private payers, sucks and is what's costing all of us especially struggling poor people a whole lot.Andymii said:
I like Bernie Sander's ideals, but I can't imagine how he'll deal with a Republican-controlled Congress nor how he will impose universal health care in a nation full of idiots that oppose universal health care. Case point: we've had many measures of universal health care that failed because "socialism duh".Billy The Kitten said:
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What do you mean Im late to the fad? Thats my moe!
This.Nozomi Toujou said:
Or is 18 voting age I legitimately don't remember?
As someone living in a country he's based his policies on I can say with first hand experience that Sanders ideas not only work but they are objectively better than what you guys have right now. Also he's not socialist, like not even vaguely close to being a socialist. That's just something conservatives called him because America is still deathly afraid of anything to do with the Soviet Union (ironically especially the good parts of the Soviet Union) which includes Socialism.
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18 is voting age in the U.S. at least.
I agree. I do think that calling Sanders "a socialist" is meaningless anyway because he's not a socialist even though he's as close as socialist can get (that's not saying much in American politics). Also, can you imagine, Obama being called a socialist/communist!? Obama isn't even remotely close to those labels, as he's more center-right. Sanders is more of a socialist than Obama, being definitely more left. Also, we're not in a true capitalist society. We do incorporate socialist elements such as welfare, medicare, healthcare, financial aid, and others. I know Republicans like to roll those things back, but most of us appreciate those things even the old people on retirement pensions (government pensions are a socialist element) vote Republican, which is why not even Reagan touches those things.
One of the few things I don't agree with Sanders is on GMOs. He doesn't think they cause harm, which is consistent with the scientific community's conclusion, but he still supports labeling and giving the consumer the right to know. I think that's not a right approach to food labeling, and I think he should push for more useful labeling measures for consumers, such as appropriate serving sizes (pot pies being labeled as 2 serving sizes just to halve the calories) and removing the rule that trans fat should not be listed if it is 0.5g or lower.
I also don't think the argument "Sanders is old lol" is valid at all. Europe has elected decidedly ancient leaders and I'm sure the vast majority, it not all, lived through their terms. Not an issue.
I agree. I do think that calling Sanders "a socialist" is meaningless anyway because he's not a socialist even though he's as close as socialist can get (that's not saying much in American politics). Also, can you imagine, Obama being called a socialist/communist!? Obama isn't even remotely close to those labels, as he's more center-right. Sanders is more of a socialist than Obama, being definitely more left. Also, we're not in a true capitalist society. We do incorporate socialist elements such as welfare, medicare, healthcare, financial aid, and others. I know Republicans like to roll those things back, but most of us appreciate those things even the old people on retirement pensions (government pensions are a socialist element) vote Republican, which is why not even Reagan touches those things.
One of the few things I don't agree with Sanders is on GMOs. He doesn't think they cause harm, which is consistent with the scientific community's conclusion, but he still supports labeling and giving the consumer the right to know. I think that's not a right approach to food labeling, and I think he should push for more useful labeling measures for consumers, such as appropriate serving sizes (pot pies being labeled as 2 serving sizes just to halve the calories) and removing the rule that trans fat should not be listed if it is 0.5g or lower.
I also don't think the argument "Sanders is old lol" is valid at all. Europe has elected decidedly ancient leaders and I'm sure the vast majority, it not all, lived through their terms. Not an issue.
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18 is voting age. I know this because my mom had stated during the election last year that I could vote in the next election, and I was 14.Stargatedalek said:
and i also googled it lmao
Stargatedalek
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My problem with GMO's is from a copyright perspective. If you look back at the creation of GMO's they were a good thing, they were created in the public domain by institutional scientists with goals like increasing productivity and limiting the needs for pesticides and to make things like crop rotations easier and better for everyone. But because the world government's didn't take Jurassic Park to heart companies were eventually allowed to patent GMO's and from there all hell broke loose. Plants that don't create seeds specifically to force farmers to buy each years worth of seed and prevent them from saving any to reuse, plants that are actually more vulnerable to the point they can only survive with X brand of fertilizer and pesticide and herbicide all conveniently sold by the seed producer, and even plants designed specifically to destroy viable earth to try and force certain crops to be used more than others. With companies like Monsanto on the brink of collapse there is hope that such malpractice may eventually disappear just by consumer demand but the stigma of GMO's will probably prevent them from ever becoming the good thing they can be. They're like nuclear power, it has potential but people are afraid of it anyway.Striker Mario said:
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I can't vote, as I live in the UK, but I'd vote for Bernie.
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I don't think patenting desirable traits is all that new, though, as it's been going on within conventional breeding since the 1930's. And how farmers can't save and reuse seeds, isn't this a thing with hybird plants, too, where they can't produce seeds with hybrid vigor, and that has been going on for decades? Also, how is it a bad thing that the seeds are sterile? This would prevent them or at least make it more difficult for the GMOs to invade the surrounding environment. Either way, it's been standard practice for seed companies to bar farmers from saving seeds and this has nothing to do with GMOs. In the end, if you're referring to GURT, that never got commercialized due to its backlash. A lot of what Monsanto does shouldn't be condoned, but most of the criticisms for what it does isn't unique to it.Stargatedalek said:
PrinceLarryKoopa88
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I'm voting for Sarah Palin, she's running right.
... No.PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
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Sarah Palin is a very intellectual and intelligent person. I'm voting for her anyways.
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If Sanders and Trump win the nominations, some third-party guy is going to run, or so I heard.
My view on each candidate:
Trump: Ditz
Cruz: I'll take him
Kasich, Ok but doesn't have a chance
Hillary: Ditz
Bernie: Has opposing views to mine on essentially everything
And that's why I'd vote for Cruz if I were 18.
My view on each candidate:
Trump: Ditz
Cruz: I'll take him
Kasich, Ok but doesn't have a chance
Hillary: Ditz
Bernie: Has opposing views to mine on essentially everything
And that's why I'd vote for Cruz if I were 18.
Nah bro, he has opposing views to your parents on essentially everything.Charley Dietz said:
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No offense, but will you guys ever realize I have my own views? My dad's a libertarian, I think that's ridiculous. I just happen to agree with my mom on a lot of my political views.
You state that you have your own political opinions, yet when backing this claim up you talk mostly about your parents. This does not add up in the slightest.Charley Dietz said:
