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'Hoy, small fry!
Nobody's going to throw a fit; I don't think anyone ever said that. However, it still makes the website less enjoyable to users who make a not-so-popular topic. There's not even any pros to having a like system that come to my mind right now.
And comparing to YouTube is a bad argument for a couple of reasons:
1. Youtube uses a like to dislike ratio bar. Sure, the actual amount of likes or dislikes shows, but no one actually looks at that; it's the colored bar that matters.
2. YouTube uses a like system to recommend the quality of the video beforehand. It the dislikes outweigh the likes (or even if it comes half-and-half), viewers will probably be less likely to watch it. But what is the point here? To "recommend" some topics and "deter" others? YouTube's like system would be useless without dislikes, and dislikes are something that will only cause problems for our community.
3. YouTube has a massive amount of users. Seriously, take any two active channels, ask if they know each other, and the chances of them actually knowing each other is basically zero. Most channels have maybe one or two likes not because they are terrible, but because it's impossible to watch every single video (which would take you 60,000 years). Because of this, not having likes won't make you really feel bad. We, on the other hand, have a pretty close community. Most active users probably know each other; we don't have 60,000 years' worth of topics, so they'll be read by most people. At this point, you can see how likes go from being a simple indicator of the video (topic)'s quality to something completely unnecessary that will create competition at its worst and absolutely nothing at its best, as far as I can see.
And comparing to YouTube is a bad argument for a couple of reasons:
1. Youtube uses a like to dislike ratio bar. Sure, the actual amount of likes or dislikes shows, but no one actually looks at that; it's the colored bar that matters.
2. YouTube uses a like system to recommend the quality of the video beforehand. It the dislikes outweigh the likes (or even if it comes half-and-half), viewers will probably be less likely to watch it. But what is the point here? To "recommend" some topics and "deter" others? YouTube's like system would be useless without dislikes, and dislikes are something that will only cause problems for our community.
3. YouTube has a massive amount of users. Seriously, take any two active channels, ask if they know each other, and the chances of them actually knowing each other is basically zero. Most channels have maybe one or two likes not because they are terrible, but because it's impossible to watch every single video (which would take you 60,000 years). Because of this, not having likes won't make you really feel bad. We, on the other hand, have a pretty close community. Most active users probably know each other; we don't have 60,000 years' worth of topics, so they'll be read by most people. At this point, you can see how likes go from being a simple indicator of the video (topic)'s quality to something completely unnecessary that will create competition at its worst and absolutely nothing at its best, as far as I can see.
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I am not against implementing this Like option, but I don't think adding this option would vastly improve anything either. Sure it would give you an ego boost and it's an easy way to make people agree with your post without actually stating, but that's really about it.
I'd be staunchly against having like, say, a Facepunch forums-like post-rating system though.
I'd be staunchly against having like, say, a Facepunch forums-like post-rating system though.
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Yes.
I really don't have much of an opinion on this. But if for some reason the forum resorts to this, there will be drama e.g 'Why the hell didn't you like my post'. Our current system is effective as it is.
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1. I'm not saying the forum is bad as it currently is at all. In fact, I think it's really good currently. I'm just saying we can make it even better.Iggy Waffles said:
2. Although I think most people on this forum are mature enough to handle not getting likes, I'm not totally denying a few people here might handle it immaturely, so I reiterate my earlier suggestion that if a person acts like a petulant child about not getting likes, mods should be allowed to give warnings to or ban him or her for it.
I like how all of the Global Moderators who have commented on this topic have said that it's a good idea but almost all regular users have said it's an awful idea because the only thing they're thinking about is how drama could possibly be generated from this which won't happen because said Global Moderators are here to actually ensure users are following rules.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.Chiaki Nanami said:
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I'm not against it either, but I personally don't feel comfortable if large amounts of people liked one post of mine because it strokes my ego and I might do something stupid in hopes of replicating that post or whatever.
But that's a personal problem and doesn't address the benefits of a like system.
Honestly, though, I don't think the amount of low-quality posting is going to change. What people see as "low-quality" might be "funny" for others. Liking can be a benefit because it might help build confidence in user or pressure them to make high quality post so there's that. But it's a pretty inconsequential change but I think I'm weakly supporting a like system.
On the other note, can we at least visibly display post count again? Are people really shedding blood over whose dingamahigs are bigger in this forum?
But that's a personal problem and doesn't address the benefits of a like system.
Honestly, though, I don't think the amount of low-quality posting is going to change. What people see as "low-quality" might be "funny" for others. Liking can be a benefit because it might help build confidence in user or pressure them to make high quality post so there's that. But it's a pretty inconsequential change but I think I'm weakly supporting a like system.
On the other note, can we at least visibly display post count again? Are people really shedding blood over whose dingamahigs are bigger in this forum?
