United States Presidential Election, 2012

Voting for a Republican does not make one racist, and a candidate's past personal history does not matter in terms of his (or her) presidential ability, though it does have an impact on whether or not said candidate will be voted for, as much as I despise that idea.
 
Bop1996 said:
@Obama supporters: I'd like you to answer a few questions. Does voting for a Republican make you racist? If so, what if you vote for Cain? Does a candidate's past personal history matter greatly when running for office? If so, why do you support Obama when he was definitely friends with an actual terrorist?
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1. ...no, it doesn't. I don't think anyone says that except the extremists.
2. Of course it matters!
3. This is the part where I facepalmed so hard I think I broke my nose.

Mario4Ever said:
Voting for a Republican does not make one racist, and a candidate's past personal history does not matter in terms of his (or her) presidential ability, though it does have an impact on whether or not said candidate will be voted for, as much as I despise that idea.
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So if someone raped, murdered, and killed two hundred people you'd vote for them as long as they-

oh right i'm talking to Mr. Ayn Rand-Meets-Nietzsche Wannabe here
 
Actually... there's no real evidence against Herman Cain. The same thing happened last election here in SC with Nikki Haley, people are always trying to label candidates as sex offenders.

Also you didn't mention Newt Gingrich, who would be my second choice after Cain. Newt has plenty of experience and in the Republican Commander-in-Chief debate on Saturday he seemed the most capable of all the candidates.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Actually... there's no real evidence against Herman Cain. The same thing happened last election here in SC with Nikki Haley, people are always trying to label candidates as sex offenders.

Also you didn't mention Newt Gingrich, who would be my second choice after Cain. Newt has plenty of experience and in the Republican Commander-in-Chief debate on Saturday he seemed the most capable of all the candidates.
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1. Let's face it, if Herman Cain were a liberal you'd believe he was a sex offender.
2. Oh yes, Newt Gingrich, Mr. I'm-so-desperate-I-set-up-fake-twitter-accounts-to-follow-me-so-I-look-like-I-have-more-fans.
 
@SvS: Was your problem with the content of my argument, its factual validity, or its logical basis?
 
Dr. Javelin said:
1. But he's not.
2. What the hell? Besides, that has nothing to do with his would-be presidency.
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1a. It is a proven, documented, matter of public fact that he made a settlement regarding sexual harassment charges, lied about knowing about it, then contradicted himself. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
1b. If you do not believe that Obama was born in Kenya, and if you do not believe he is a secret Muslim/Atheist, then I respect your belief that Cain is innocent even if I think you're wrong. But otherwise you're just a hypocrite.
2. No, it just shows that he's a sad, dishonest, pathetic man who I don't want as my president.
 
Scarecrow von Steuben said:
Dr. Javelin said:
1. But he's not.
2. What the hell? Besides, that has nothing to do with his would-be presidency.
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1a. It is a proven, documented, matter of public fact that he made a settlement regarding sexual harassment charges, lied about knowing about it, then contradicted himself. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
1b. If you do not believe that Obama was born in Kenya, and if you do not believe he is a secret Muslim/Atheist, then I respect your belief that Cain is innocent even if I think you're wrong. But otherwise you're just a hypocrite.
2. No, it just shows that he's a sad, dishonest, pathetic man who I don't want as my president.
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1a. From what I can tell, it's just an old political trick that gets tried every once in a while, so I'm reluctant to believe it.
1b. No, I don't believe in that garbage about Obama, my problems with him are solely based on his presidency ideals. So no, I'm not a hypocrite.
2. I also doubt the validity of those claims, though they're probably more likely than Herman Cain as a sex offender. I still find it irrelevant, though.
 
Scarecrow von Steuben said:
Mario4Ever said:
Voting for a Republican does not make one racist, and a candidate's past personal history does not matter in terms of his (or her) presidential ability, though it does have an impact on whether or not said candidate will be voted for, as much as I despise that idea.
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So if someone raped, murdered, and killed two hundred people you'd vote for them as long as they-

oh right i'm talking to Mr. Ayn Rand-Meets-Nietzsche Wannabe here
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It is unlikely that someone could take that many lives and get on the ballot undetected...unless the country is far more corrupt than I think it is. In any case, these are the only requirements that must be met in order to be eligible for the office:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

There's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting a candidate from having a criminal record (Bush had a DUI back in '76).

The only reason people are making a big deal out of Cain is because voting's based on popularity rather than capability, and I haven't seen a capable candidate in a long time (as far as the GOP's concerned, anyway...Obama would have fared better if Bush had cleaned up his mess rather than leave it behind...also, the "birther" shit was a waste of time).