Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
Yeah, it was made for casual play in mind, but Melee still appealed to the hardcore fighting game community. Sakurai saw this and said "no, screw competitive play". Melee proved both sides could coexist. There was no reason to remove those elements.

Think of it like this. I go to a restaurant and I order a bacon cheeseburger. I get my bacon cheeseburgers and bite into. First, i notice there is no bacon or cheese in the burger whatsoever. Okay, that's kinda bullshit. Then I realize they've put some disgusting new sauce in there that makes it taste awful. I suppose I should just accept and adapt, right?

And believe it or not, a lot of Melee fans want more than just Melee. But if Sakurai continues this attitude of "competitive play is bad and everyone should be a winner", then people don't have a choice.

Again, I love both games and play them both. At least from a spectator's perspective, a match of melee is infinitely more entertaining than a match of Brawl.

DaKid said:
Melee is a good game, but competitively, it really not fun. All that spasmic dashing to the left and right, wavedashing and crap gets tiring fast.
Well that's grossly oversimplifying the whole thing.

I find it ironic you say Melee felt unpolished. Sakurai has stated before that it was the "sharpest game in the series".
 
Who wants to play me in Brawl right now?
 
GalacticPetey said:
Yeah, it was made for casual play in mind, but Melee still appealed to the hardcore fighting game community. Sakurai saw this and said "no, screw competitive play". Melee proved both sides could coexist. There was no reason to remove those elements.

Think of it like this. I go to a restaurant and I order a bacon cheeseburger. I get my bacon cheeseburgers and bite into. First, i notice there is no bacon or cheese in the burger whatsoever. Okay, that's kinda bull*bleep*. Then I realize they've put some disgusting new sauce in there that makes it taste awful. I suppose I should just accept and adapt, right?

And believe it or not, a lot of Melee fans want more than just Melee. But if Sakurai continues this attitude of "competitive play is bad and everyone should be a winner", then people don't have a choice.

Again, I love both games and play them both. At least from a spectator's perspective, a match of melee is infinitely more entertaining than a match of Brawl.

DaKid said:
Melee is a good game, but competitively, it really not fun. All that spasmic dashing to the left and right, wavedashing and crap gets tiring fast.
Well that's grossly oversimplifying the whole thing.

I find it ironic you say Melee felt unpolished. Sakurai has stated before that it was the "sharpest game in the series".

I'm not trying to persuade or prove which game is better. I honestly don't care which one you like most or the Melee competitive base. Same for Sakurai. Don't care about what he says regarding how Melee felt for me. Just saying.

Melee fans are a small minority, like a grain of rice of a minority. It's obvious nobody wants what they want or feel the same.

I'm just tired of the constant moaning and antagonistic behavior of a lot of them.
 
GalacticPetey said:
Yeah, it was made for casual play in mind, but Melee still appealed to the hardcore fighting game community. Sakurai saw this and said "no, screw competitive play". Melee proved both sides could coexist. There was no reason to remove those elements.

Think of it like this. I go to a restaurant and I order a bacon cheeseburger. I get my bacon cheeseburgers and bite into. First, i notice there is no bacon or cheese in the burger whatsoever. Okay, that's kinda bullshit. Then I realize they've put some disgusting new sauce in there that makes it taste awful. I suppose I should just accept and adapt, right?

And believe it or not, a lot of Melee fans want more than just Melee. But if Sakurai continues this attitude of "competitive play is bad and everyone should be a winner", then people don't have a choice.

Again, I love both games and play them both. At least from a spectator's perspective, a match of melee is infinitely more entertaining than a match of Brawl.

DaKid said:
Melee is a good game, but competitively, it really not fun. All that spasmic dashing to the left and right, wavedashing and crap gets tiring fast.
Well that's grossly oversimplifying the whole thing.

I find it ironic you say Melee felt unpolished. Sakurai has stated before that it was the "sharpest game in the series".

Says the person that still believes Ridley is going to get into Sm4sh

Well for the minority of people that actually focus on how competitive you can be in the Smash series, Melee did have the best gameplay. However, that's all it had. Like, everything else about it felt rushed, last minute additions. I played it for like a month or two and then I stopped because I was honestly bored with it. Nothing seemed that great about it.

And that connection you made with the burger is completely wrong. It's more of you had a steak cooked one way and another steaked cooked another. People are going to prefer them differently. Sorry that your stomach can't handle that steak that many find superb over the other one. Maybe you find the sauce "bad", but others might completely love it. And if they make a new sauce that you don't like, then don't eat it. It's not like bitching and moaning will change the fact that it happened.

EDIT - Lol at DaKid agreeing with the minority thing.
 
Magikrazy said:
ernesth100 said:
Who wants to play me in Brawl right now?
1. Wrong topic
2. Wii's online was discontinued
2. You can play Brawl online on the Wii U. But nevermind.

You know everyone here should be greatful Sakurai makes new smash games. Instead of complainig.
THIS CHARACTER DOESN'T BELONG.
or

THIS ISN'T AS GOOD AS MELEE.