Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Paper Mario]

Anyone know the requirements for unlocking Bowser Jr.? I thought it was beat classic with Bowser but I did that twice and no Bowser Jr.

I heard you had to beat it on 7 intensity or higher.

Thanks, just unlocked him. Took me like three tries lol

 

[GBA]

Why is there katakana for Mario there...?

it's making a comparison, "Mario's rival is King Koopa, but Donkey Kong's arch enemy is King K. Rool". (i think)

http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-will-let-you-use-the-3ds-as-a-controller/
Whoa

Probably won't use it, but that's neat regardless.

 

[Lumastar]

well at least they're trophies...

It's sad that the original model for the trophy of King K. Rool is the best thing to happen to him in the last five years. Okay, DK Doom might beat it. That's it, however.

 

[GalacticPetey]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

 

[Ray Trace]

actually that looks like it ripped directly from brawl

 

[Gumball Machine]

Anyone know the requirements for unlocking Bowser Jr.? I thought it was beat classic with Bowser but I did that twice and no Bowser Jr.

I heard you had to beat it on 7 intensity or higher.

Thanks, just unlocked him. Took me like three tries lol

Are there multiple ways to unlock characters like Melee and Brawl? I doubt I can handle Level 7. Back in Brawl, they best I could do was Level 5. :<

 

[Lumastar]

actually that looks like it ripped directly from brawl

There's differences. They're just discrete.

I agree with GP on this. Ridley may have been deserving, but the Metroid series is not that popular in Japan. However, the Donkey Kong series is probably the biggest below the big four and the Wii series.

Anyone know the requirements for unlocking Bowser Jr.? I thought it was beat classic with Bowser but I did that twice and no Bowser Jr.

I heard you had to beat it on 7 intensity or higher.

Thanks, just unlocked him. Took me like three tries lol

Are there multiple ways to unlock characters like Melee and Brawl? I doubt I can handle Level 7. Back in Brawl, they best I could do was Level 5. :<

Yes, you can grind through VS matches to get every character again.

 

[Ray Trace]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

*Butthurt is strong with this one*

I dunno, but this heavily deconfirms any chances Dixie Kong and K. Rool will have in this game. I don't understand why there should be another addition since DK got a new rep just this past game in Brawl.

Also, if any series should get a newcomer, it should be Yoshi or F-Zero. They've been in all 4 games and yet have not had a new series. The Yoshi series is even more deserving since it's still running with YNI and the new YWW coming, so it's not like it's gone into obscurity.

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Godtier. Beautiful, just beautiful.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

 

[Stargazing]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

What? Why?

They couldn't record new voice clips but they could make 2 clones?

 

[Ray Trace]

This is one of the reasons I hate Smash Bros. games

they consistently get the mario stuff wrong

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

What? Why?

They couldn't record new voice clips but they could make 2 clones?

Yup, they also reused Mario, Bowser, and Luigi voices from Brawl as well. You know, the worst ones ever.

Brawl is the last game to look at when you're reusing voice clips for such a drastic art style change.

Do any developers know what the fuck "appropriate sound design" is?

 

[Mcmadness]

I wanted Kenny James Bowser damnit

 

[Lumastar]

Godtier. Beautiful, just beautiful.

This is too excellent to describe. 10/10

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

What? Why?

They couldn't record new voice clips but they could make 2 clones?

Yup, they also reused Mario, Bowser, and Luigi voices from Brawl as well. You know, the worst ones ever.

Brawl is the last game to look at when you're reusing voice clips for such a drastic art style change.

Do any developers know what the fuck "appropriate sound design" is?

Do any of the Mario veterans have new voices?

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Do any of the Mario veterans have new voices?

No. Only the *bleep*ty Brawl ones. Not sure about Peach, Yoshi, or Wario, but they aren't as god-awful as the other ones.

 

[Stargazing]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

What? Why?

They couldn't record new voice clips but they could make 2 clones?

Yup, they also reused Mario, Bowser, and Luigi voices from Brawl as well. You know, the worst ones ever.

Brawl is the last game to look at when you're reusing voice clips for such a drastic art style change.

Do any developers know what the fuck "appropriate sound design" is?

I remember laughing at Bowser's voice when I was 10.
i don't even know why it was rated T, i had no problems with it at all

Why reuse any voice clips from them at all? The changes are so drastic, they need different voice actors. Hell, they're still reusing Double Dash!! clips for Daisy. I mean, come on, really?

EDIT: 2 new replies calm down

 

[Ray Trace]

These pictures make me angry.

DK got no new characters, despite having a massively successful reboot and a sequel, didn't even get a new stage in the 3DS version but instead got Jungle Japes reused for another time, has no stage at all conformed for the Wii U version, hardly gets any items and gets like two Smash Run enemies.

Meanwhile KI is a three game series that got two newcomers, one of which is extremely strong and unique, a ton of Smash Run enemies, several new items, and a brand new stage on both versions.

DCKR alone sold more than the entire Kid Icarus franchise.

yeah that's kinda sad

i was really hoping k rool would be playable

and no new stages either? what the --- is wrong with sakurai? i guess he wants to promote his baby while leaving something important like dk behind

DK and Diddy also have their Brawl voices reused. Which I find to be somewhat of a crime.

What? Why?

They couldn't record new voice clips but they could make 2 clones?

Yup, they also reused Mario, Bowser, and Luigi voices from Brawl as well. You know, the worst ones ever.

Brawl is the last game to look at when you're reusing voice clips for such a drastic art style change.

Do any developers know what the *bleep* "appropriate sound design" is?

I remember laughing at Bowser's voice when I was 10.
i don't even know why it was rated T, i had no problems with it at all

Why reuse any voice clips from them at all? The changes are so drastic, they need different voice actors. Hell, they're still reusing Double Dash!! clips for Daisy. I mean, come on, really?

EDIT: 2 new replies calm down

it was rated T because E10+ didn't exist

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Why reuse any voice clips from them at all? The changes are so drastic, they need different voice actors. Hell, they're still reusing Double Dash!! clips for Daisy. I mean, come on, really?

EDIT: 2 new replies calm down

My brother said it's because of budget.

But is it so hard to reuse voices from any game that ISN'T Brawl!?

Brawl is a realistic gritty-type game, so I'd understand why Mario sounds so depressed while DK and Bowser sound like monsters. But Smash 4 is a whole 'nother type of boat, okay?

 

[Time Turner]

I really don't remember the voices really being all that bad or even noticeably odd. This is the first I've heard anyone even mentioning it, let alone putting it out like it's a sin. It can't be that bad.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

I really don't remember the voices really being all that bad or even noticeably odd. This is the first I've heard anyone even mentioning it, let alone putting it out like it's a sin. It can't be that bad.

Believe me, I took it for granted too. Same thing for Mushroomy Kingdom.

But once you start making comparisons between Brawl and the material it's supposed to be representing, the *bleep* can't be dismissed.

Hell, just start playing Melee after a thorough playthrough of Brawl and I think you can notice the change in the energy of some Mario character voices.

 

[Ray Trace]

honestly i think sound design is a reason a person can enjoy smash bros. people often overlook that fact.

 

[Time Turner]

I really don't remember the voices really being all that bad or even noticeably odd. This is the first I've heard anyone even mentioning it, let alone putting it out like it's a sin. It can't be that bad.

Believe me, I took it for granted too. Same thing for Mushroomy Kingdom.

But once you start making comparisons between Brawl and the material it's supposed to be representing, the shit can't be dismissed.

Could you actually show me a comparison?

 

[Keqing]

holy shit
i just assembled some gun that was kinda like samus' final smash

AND THERES FUCKEN ZELDA CHICKENS IN THIS
DONT HIT THEM THEY KICK YOUR ASS