Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Lee Chaolan]

Rosalina does have pretty big fan base, although not as big as some, she got that fan base very quickly. I can't blame people for why they like her, though, she's the only Mario character with a real backstory.

 

[3D Player 2004]

Rosalina does have pretty big fan base, although not as big as some, she got that fan base very quickly. I can't blame people for why they like her, though, she's the only Mario character with a real backstory.

Admitting-ly, one which is unconnected with the rest of the Mario Franchise.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Rosalina does have pretty big fan base, although not as big as some, she got that fan base very quickly. I can't blame people for why they like her, though, she's the only Mario character with a real backstory.

Admitting-ly, one which is unconnected with the rest of the Mario Franchise.

If it's Rosalina you're talking about, I don't see what you mean.

 

[Paper Mario]

Rosalina does have pretty big fan base, although not as big as some, she got that fan base very quickly. I can't blame people for why they like her, though, she's the only Mario character with a real backstory.

There are many Mario characters with backstories.

 

[Icemario]

Rosalina does have pretty big fan base, although not as big as some, she got that fan base very quickly. I can't blame people for why they like her, though, she's the only Mario character with a real backstory.

More like a really powerful backstory, if anything.

 

[Shyghoul]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

 

[Cirdec]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

 

[Lumastar]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Honey Queen dwarfs Ridley. She rivals Kraid in size.

 

[New Super Mario]

I'd say I never really wanted Rosalina over Daisy because I never really considered either of them an option at the time.

So you can't really say that Rosalina was more requested because she really wasn't, until she was revealed.

If you all know what I mean.

 

[Shy Guy Forever]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

 

[Lumastar]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

Ridley is not too big. If he is in the game, he will likely be the size of Bowser (give or take a few inches). However, Honey Queen is too big.

 

[DragonFreak]

Well they did shrink Honey Queen for MK7.

 

[Lumastar]

Well they did shrink Honey Queen for MK7.

Yes, and it made no sense. Ridley would only need a few tweaks to fit in Smash.

 

[Shyghoul]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

Ridley is not too big. If he is in the game, he will likely be the size of Bowser (give or take a few inches). However, Honey Queen is too big.

are you joking or not

 

[Lumastar]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

Ridley is not too big. If he is in the game, he will likely be the size of Bowser (give or take a few inches). However, Honey Queen is too big.

are you joking or not

I'm not joking.

 

[GalacticPetey]

To be fair, Honey Queen is bigger than Ridley.

 

[Shyghoul]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

Ridley is not too big. If he is in the game, he will likely be the size of Bowser (give or take a few inches). However, Honey Queen is too big.

are you joking or not

I'm not joking.

then why are saying that she's too big when it's clearly been shown in MK that she can be shrunk

 

[Lumastar]

Unless you wanted Honey Queen

too big

So is Ridley.

Don't open that can of worms.

Ridley is not too big. If he is in the game, he will likely be the size of Bowser (give or take a few inches). However, Honey Queen is too big.

are you joking or not

I'm not joking.

then why are saying that she's too big when it's clearly been shown in MK that she can be shrunk

Her size change in Mario Kart 7 was too dramatic. Ridley is much smaller and would not require such a downgrade.

 

[Shyghoul]

her size change looked fine to me

though I guess this is just a matter of personal opinions so w/e

 

[Lumastar]

her size change looked fine to me

though I guess this is just a matter of personal opinions so w/e

She looked OK, but it was still odd seeing her shrunk down so much.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

her size change looked fine to me

though I guess this is just a matter of personal opinions so w/e

She looked OK, but it was still odd seeing her shrunk down so much.

I don't see how that justifies Ridley being three times bigger than Bowser in Brawl.

 

[Lumastar]

her size change looked fine to me

though I guess this is just a matter of personal opinions so w/e

She looked OK, but it was still odd seeing her shrunk down so much.

I don't see how that justifies Ridley being three times bigger than Bowser in Brawl.

Still smaller than Honey Queen. Also, Ridley was that size because he was a boss. It has been proven that Ridley can fit in as a playable character at a smaller size.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

You have driven me to the point where I no longer want Ridley out of spite.

Always overdoing the "Ridley is in, and fuck the people that say he isn't"..

Yeah, because I totally say things like that.

Look, I'll admit Ridley could go either way. And yes, Ridley fans can be very bad. But Ridley haters can be equally as toxic. Generalizations will get you no where.

Ridley is a character I and a lot of other people really want in Smash. People have wanted him since Melee. You can't blame people for really wanting him,

That last part was mostly to the fanbase in general, not at you. Sorry for the confusion.

It's okay to want a character, but I mean, everything in moderation. Just because you obsess over it does NOT mean that Sakurai - who decided the roster a year ago - will do anything different about it. I don't mind the speculation as much as the "this for sure confirms him."

I mean, I would love Ridley in Smash and everything, and I would want him more if the fanbase didn't rub me in the wrong way.

I would have considered Toad, Paper Mario, and Bowser Jr. over Rosalina for a Mario rep. I guess they just wanted to rep the new games.

That being said, Rosalina has a very unique and interesting play style.

We're talking about Sakurai. The Sakurai that throws in surprise characters like Snake, ROB, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosie, Ice Climbers, Mr. G&W, etc. over other potential characters. While Toad, PM, and BJ make more sense in terms of appearance, Rosalina has made more of an impact on the Marioverse as of late. Her inclusion in so many of the games nowadays was a big indicator that she was possibly going to be on Smash (or at least it was to me). The Mario series really got lucky with such a unique and interesting character like Rosalina, and surprisingly, she's appearing in like every game as of late, unlike Bowser Jr. I could see Toad being a 6th rep, or even PM with the inclusion of a Paper Mario stage (which made my week). I never understood the hype for Bowser Jr. though because it doesn't really seem to fit. I mean, honestly, I think Daisy should get in before Bowser Jr.

 

[Lumastar]

I would have considered Toad, Paper Mario, and Bowser Jr. over Rosalina for a Mario rep. I guess they just wanted to rep the new games.

That being said, Rosalina has a very unique and interesting play style.

We're talking about Sakurai. The Sakurai that throws in surprise characters like Snake, ROB, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosie, Ice Climbers, Mr. G&W, etc. over other potential characters. While Toad, PM, and BJ make more sense in terms of appearance, Rosalina has made more of an impact on the Marioverse as of late. Her inclusion in so many of the games nowadays was a big indicator that she was possibly going to be on Smash (or at least it was to me). The Mario series really got lucky with such a unique and interesting character like Rosalina, and surprisingly, she's appearing in like every game as of late, unlike Bowser Jr. I could see Toad being a 6th rep, or even PM with the inclusion of a Paper Mario stage (which made my week). I never understood the hype for Bowser Jr. though because it doesn't really seem to fit. I mean, honestly, I think Daisy should get in before Bowser Jr.

Bowser Jr. is the most likely second antagonist. Daisy is not going to represent the spin-offs before Waluigi and she has too much competition in the way of other protagonists that could potentially get in. I also don't see how Toad could get in now.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

I don't get the whole Antagonist argument. I feel like that was what Brawl was for. I do feel like Sakurai does patterns in Smash.

SSB64 - Obvious new thing; add major series.
SSBM - Add new reps from major series and try to get as many in, meaning make clones.
SSBB - I felt like this one was add the villains of major series and less focus on the main series but more on the lesser known series.
SSB4 - More Female Reps and more focus on some of the series that haven't be introduced as characters yet.

That's just a theory.

Speaking of theories, a lot of people that played the E3 demo for Sm4sh said they saw Chunky Kong as an Assist Trophy. Does anyone know if that is true?