Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

Which of the characters do you main?

  • Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Luigi

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Peach

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Bowser

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Yoshi

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Rosalina

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Bowser Jr./Koopalings

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Wario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mr. Game and Watch

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Donkey Kong

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Diddy Kong

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Link

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Zelda

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Shiek

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Ganondorf

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Toon Link

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Samus

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Zero Suit Samus

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pit

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Palutena

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Marth

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Ike

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Robin

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Kirby

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • King Dedede

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Meta Knight

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Little Mac

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Fox

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Falco

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Pikachu

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Lucario

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Jigglypuff

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Greninja

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Duck Hunt

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • ROB

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Ness

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Villager

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Pikmin & Olimar(/Alph)

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Wii Fit Trainer

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Dr. Mario

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Dark Pit

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Lucina

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Shulk

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Pac-Man

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Mega Man

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Sonic

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Mii Brawler

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mii Swordsman

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mii Gunner

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Lucas

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Roy

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Cloud Strife

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Corrin

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Bayonetta

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
Contra(dictory) said:
The trophy stand is a different color and he's less-defined overall.

3DS screen?
Probably. Or Nintendo tweaked the original model a bit for the final game.
 
I'd say differently, because literally everything is different in the second version. Background is same color but more zoomed-in, trophy stand is brighter and less-defined, and so is Rayman himself. Definitely 3DS screen.
 
Found this post on Reddit.

[quote author=Some guy on Reddit]
Now that the hype is calming down a bit from the trailer reveal a few days ago, I think its a good time to discuss the status on the Gematsu leak! I'm going over both what makes it legit and what makes it seem fake.
All around /r/smashbros and Smash Boards a lot of people are prancing around and saying this particular leak is "dead" and "completely fake." However anyone that knows how the game development process and leaks work shouldn't be surprised at one missing character. I'd say Chrom not being playable critically damaged it, but didn't KO it. After all Brawl has those empty Dixie, Mewtwo, and Toon Zelda files on the disk. If a leak claimed all of those characters would be in alongside the current roster we got in Brawl, it'd be because things can change during the process. It completely depends on when this "leaker" got his info and who he is and where he works in the company.

If anyone followed the Pokemon X/Y leaks, they were able to leak the exact English names of several new Pokemon before we knew they existed (with minor spelling errors) but a couple of features mentioned in their leak were not in X/Y at all. Some parts were 100% true and others didn't happen at all! It could be the same for Gematsu. At the same time he could be lucky and just have guessed these characters since a lot of them like Palutena/Villager were obvious shoe-ins and some guesses like "Pokemon from X/Y" were vague enough that they'd work without having to make a specific guess.

What does the lack of Chrom mean? Well one thing it means is this list, assuming its real, isn't a list of every character. AKA: We can expect other characters besides these guys on the list. It ALSO means "Anything can change!!!" (Chrom quote) and some of these characters can be cut during development. The people afraid of including the new/unheard of to many Chorus Boys will all be crossing their fingers that they'll be one of the characters to get the boot (maybe in exchange for another more suitable-for-combat Rhythm Heaven character like Karate Joe/The Wrestler).

Also I think now's a good time to discuss where people think a leak like this is coming from. A lot of people assume leaks are magical "knows everything" list but it really depends on where this stuff is coming from. Is it an artist who textures/models the models and just assumed the Chrom model he made would be for a playable character? Is it a leak from someone who was there from early in the development process and isn't currently there to see what things are being cut/changed? What about those weird comments about the leaker claiming to know about DLC/cutting Lucas. Some of that stuff seems fishy! =.=

What do I personally think? Well looking at this leak logically... it's gotten 8 out of 9 characters right. Nothing on the list has been a lie except for Chrom, which even then wasn't a total lie considering he has soooome presence in the game. Most of the characters listed are obvious guesses like Palutena and Villager, but the risky predictions like WFT and Pac-Man on one list gives it a lot of credit. Missing Chrom and hyping everyone for Shulk the day before the Fire Emblem trailer however makes it look REALLY bad though. Also the "Sal Romano" posting on Smash Boards keeps saying some very conflicting information like the "they're currently discussing whether to keep Lucas or not" while at the same time claiming that the leaker "knows what has been done but doesn't know what they're currently doing and changing."

I think it still leans towards being legit considering the mathmatical odds of guessing such a list almost completely correctly. I'd say I'm 70% sure its legit and all doubt will be erased if those Chorus Boys get in. Why Chorus Boys? Because they're not the main character of their game like Shulk would be. There's like 30 games in Rhythm Heaven featuring original characters in each one, and guessing the Chorus Boys would be astronomically impossible imo. So the only thing left to do to see how accurate this "leak" is to play the waiting game. I don't think any amount of speculation will crack open the walnut of truth![/quote]
 
GalacticPetey said:
Found this post on Reddit.

[quote author=Some guy on Reddit]
Now that the hype is calming down a bit from the trailer reveal a few days ago, I think its a good time to discuss the status on the Gematsu leak! I'm going over both what makes it legit and what makes it seem fake.
All around /r/smashbros and Smash Boards a lot of people are prancing around and saying this particular leak is "dead" and "completely fake." However anyone that knows how the game development process and leaks work shouldn't be surprised at one missing character. I'd say Chrom not being playable critically damaged it, but didn't KO it. After all Brawl has those empty Dixie, Mewtwo, and Toon Zelda files on the disk. If a leak claimed all of those characters would be in alongside the current roster we got in Brawl, it'd be because things can change during the process. It completely depends on when this "leaker" got his info and who he is and where he works in the company.

If anyone followed the Pokemon X/Y leaks, they were able to leak the exact English names of several new Pokemon before we knew they existed (with minor spelling errors) but a couple of features mentioned in their leak were not in X/Y at all. Some parts were 100% true and others didn't happen at all! It could be the same for Gematsu. At the same time he could be lucky and just have guessed these characters since a lot of them like Palutena/Villager were obvious shoe-ins and some guesses like "Pokemon from X/Y" were vague enough that they'd work without having to make a specific guess.

What does the lack of Chrom mean? Well one thing it means is this list, assuming its real, isn't a list of every character. AKA: We can expect other characters besides these guys on the list. It ALSO means "Anything can change!!!" (Chrom quote) and some of these characters can be cut during development. The people afraid of including the new/unheard of to many Chorus Boys will all be crossing their fingers that they'll be one of the characters to get the boot (maybe in exchange for another more suitable-for-combat Rhythm Heaven character like Karate Joe/The Wrestler).

Also I think now's a good time to discuss where people think a leak like this is coming from. A lot of people assume leaks are magical "knows everything" list but it really depends on where this stuff is coming from. Is it an artist who textures/models the models and just assumed the Chrom model he made would be for a playable character? Is it a leak from someone who was there from early in the development process and isn't currently there to see what things are being cut/changed? What about those weird comments about the leaker claiming to know about DLC/cutting Lucas. Some of that stuff seems fishy! =.=

What do I personally think? Well looking at this leak logically... it's gotten 8 out of 9 characters right. Nothing on the list has been a lie except for Chrom, which even then wasn't a total lie considering he has soooome presence in the game. Most of the characters listed are obvious guesses like Palutena and Villager, but the risky predictions like WFT and Pac-Man on one list gives it a lot of credit. Missing Chrom and hyping everyone for Shulk the day before the Fire Emblem trailer however makes it look REALLY bad though. Also the "Sal Romano" posting on Smash Boards keeps saying some very conflicting information like the "they're currently discussing whether to keep Lucas or not" while at the same time claiming that the leaker "knows what has been done but doesn't know what they're currently doing and changing."

I think it still leans towards being legit considering the mathmatical odds of guessing such a list almost completely correctly. I'd say I'm 70% sure its legit and all doubt will be erased if those Chorus Boys get in. Why Chorus Boys? Because they're not the main character of their game like Shulk would be. There's like 30 games in Rhythm Heaven featuring original characters in each one, and guessing the Chorus Boys would be astronomically impossible imo. So the only thing left to do to see how accurate this "leak" is to play the waiting game. I don't think any amount of speculation will crack open the walnut of truth!
[/quote]
I'm sorry, buddy!

This guy brings up a good point about the Pokèmon X and Y leak.
 
Timmy said:
Hey, I know nothing about Fire Emblem, so can someone answer this for me?

I've heard that Robin has this spell called Nosferatu, and I heard that it can also heal him (not sure how though)... o.o
If so, can someone poin