A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!) (New Roster! With 63!)

[New Super Mario]

I made this. Please tell me what you think, what should be added/removed.

Blue squares are default characters, and red means they're unlockable.



I had another one made before that (I'll show you it if you want), but it had way to many third-party characters, and some bad choices overall.

Take 2! This new roster has 63 characters (I added Spyro and Crash just to please myself). I will tell you what I changed below.



Changes I made:
-Mario: Took out Dr. Mario, Rosalina, Daisy, and Fawful. Changed Bowser and Toad to unlockable.
-Yoshi: Took out Birdo. After some thought, I think that Kamek would be a better choice.
-Wario: Took out Jimmy T. I was going to put Captain Syrup in, but decided she didn't fit, and left it at Wario and Waluigi.
-DK: No changes
-Kid Icarus: I saw some of your comments, but I still think these characters fit.
-Zelda: Kept Young Link. I think he's better than Toon Link. Took out Skull Kid and Impa.
-Metroid: No changes
-Kirby: No changes
-F-Zero: Added the Goroh guy. F-Zero needs at least another rep.
-Star Fox: No changes
-Pokemon: Replaced Pichu with this Zororak or something dude. I hear people want him in.
-Fire Emblem: No changes
-Earthbound/Mother: No changes
-Pikmin: Got rid of Louie.
-Super Smash Bros: Got rid of everybody
-Other: Got rid of Tom Nook, Banjo, Nintendog, Mii and Slime. Kept the others.

 

[SonicMario]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

Yes
Everyone who was playable in Brawl

No
Birdo
Young Link (Toon Link was just fine)
Rosalina
Baby Mario Bros.
Impa
Pichu
Master Hand
Daisy
Palutena
Waddle Dee
Louie
Fawful
Tingle
Nabooru
Magnus

HELL No
Primid
Nintendog
Tabuu
Dr. Mario

Characters I wish could get in but probably won't
Tails
Mr. Resetti
Jimmy T
Crash

Everyone else I'm either fine with or meh about.

 

[New Super Mario]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

HELL No
Primid
Nintendog
Tabuu
Dr. Mario

Any suggestions for replacements for these?

Yeah, Nintendog wouldn't really have a moveset, same with Primid. Dr. Mario is a copy of Mario, and Tabuu would be overpowered. The only reason I really put them in was cause I wanted some Smash Bros series representatives.

EDIT: Also, I like Young Link better than Toon Link so I replaced him

 

[Weasel]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

HELL No
Primid
Nintendog
Tabuu
Dr. Mario

Any suggestions for replacements for these?

More F-Zero characters. [/broken record]

 

[SonicMario]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

I think in general 80 is too much. The maxinum for SSB4 IMO should be about 60. So I'd say just remove those spots entirely. But I suppose there are better ideas then those 4 if the roster must be 80 characters

 

[Gumball Machine]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

Dang it: SonicMario ninja'd me.

Remove the following:
* Dr. Mario (he was a Mario clone in Melee and he doesn't really serve importance in the Mario series)
* Birdo (lack of importance, and not the most popular Mario character)
* Primid (they're generic enemies, they're not really part of any series)
* Banzo and Kazooie (they're property of Microsoft now, not Rare Ware)
* Rosalina (lacks importance and she's not the combat type)
* Pichu (its a Pikachu clone both moveset and physically wise since Pichu evolves into Pikachu)
* Master Hand (too big, and he's the main villain)
* Nintendog (what's it gonna do, bite the other characters?)
* Daisy (as much as I like her, she's not important enough, and she's already a costume for Peach)
* Tabuu (can we say overpowered?)
* Jimmy T. (Super Smash Bros. is a fighting game, not dancing)
* Louie (unless he uses different Pikmin, he's just an Olimar clone)
* Mr. Resetti (What's he going to do? Yell at the other characters until they run away crying?)
* Fawful (not important, and he's dead)
* Waluigi (not an important character)
* Tingle
* Tom Nook (Animal Crossing isn't violent enough to get a playable rep in SSB)
* Pac Man (unless you can come up with a moveset for him)
* Tails (unless SonicMario or any other Sonic expert/fan can come up with a moveset for him)

In order to get into SSB, a character should meet these requirements.

1. They're a video game character.
2. They're from a Nintendo franchise.
3. If they don't meet requirement #2, they should have some sort of history with Nintendo.
4. Ask yourself if its possible to come up with a moveset for them and will their size be an issue?
5. Are they popular enough/Do the fans want them?
6. They have to play a major role in their games. Take the Mario characters for example:
Mario (hero)
Luigi (sidekick/secondary hero)
Peach (damsel in distress)
Bowser (villain)
Yoshi (friend with spin off series)
DK (original rival with spin off series)
Wario (rival with spin off series)

Daisy and Waluigi would not work because they're in the spin-offs and are just there if the player wants to play as them. They barely contribute to the plot.

Fawful wouldn't work either because he was a minion in his first game, a shopkeeper in the second and the main villain in his third game. Even though he had a major role, it was only in 2 games, which can't compare to other Mario characters who've made more appearances and received more important roles.

 

[New Super Mario]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

HELL No
Primid
Nintendog
Tabuu
Dr. Mario

Any suggestions for replacements for these?

More F-Zero characters. [/broken record]

I thought I had that Samurai Goroh on there.

But I guess not. I might add him sometime tomorrow in replace with on of the Smash characters

I get what Superjeff is saying, but I think some of the characters have a lot of potential for movesets, Birdo, Jimmy T., Fawful, and Pac Man being a couple.

 

[Smashley]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

Yes:

-everyone in Brawl
-Young Link (better than Toon IMO)
-Bowser Jr.
-Ridley
-Roy
-Mewtwo
-Waddle Dee
-Louie
-Mega Man

No:

-Crash (better for Sony's game)
-Spyro (above)
-Impa
-Daisy
-Rosalina
-Fawful
-Nabboru
-Impa
-Skull Kid
-Tingle
-Slime
-Magnus
-Tom Nook
-Banjo

Hell no:

-Resetti
-Jimmy T.
-Birdo
-Master Hand
-Nintendog
-Tabuu
Primid

everything else I'm neutral.

HELL No
Primid
Nintendog
Tabuu
Dr. Mario

Any suggestions for replacements for these?

Little Mac, Saki, Goroh.

 

[SonicMario]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

* Jimmy T. (Super Smash Bros. is a fighting game, not dancing)
* Mr. Resetti (What's he going to do? Yell at the other characters until they run away crying?)
* Tails (unless SonicMario or any other Sonic expert/fan can come up with a moveset for him)

Jimmy T: Smash Bros. is a fighting game, not racing. So on this logic Captain Falcon shouldn't get in
Mr. Resetti: I think that Pickaxe of his could do some heavy damage...
Tails: Play Sonic Battle. Now

 

[MnSG]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

No offense, but 80 characters is complete overkill right now.

 

[Gumball Machine]

Re: A Roster I made For Smash Wii U (80 Characters!)

Jimmy T: Smash Bros. is a fighting game, not racing. So on this logic Captain Falcon shouldn't get in
Mr. Resetti: I think that Pickaxe of his could do some heavy damage...
Tails: Play Sonic Battle. Now

Even so, racing is potentially dangerous, so Captain Falcon should be used the adrenaline rush. Plus, pretty much the most badass looking Nintendo characters ever. Jimmy T. just looks like Waluigi with an afro. (yes I'm well aware those were weak arguments, do don't bother pointing that out)

Still, is it possible to make an entire moveset with just the pickaxe? I suppose the other Animal Crossing tools (shovel, rod, net, and axe) can be added, but would it work? Besides, Animal Crossing is one of the least violent video game franchises.

I'll watch a YouTube video tomorrow.