The Official Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Kai/Super Thread

Dragon Ball Super is over. What did you think of it?

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This most recent arc has been great. It's been fun to see the recruiting process, but I think I'm ready for the tournament to start now. I need some more #17 fight scenes in my life.

I think Goku Black is my favorite new character introduced, well also Beerus and Whis, but they're technically from BoG.
 
I just hope the battles stay as focussed on tactics as they've been so far in this arc. It was great seeing Krillin of all people to almost get the drop on Goku by outsmarting him.

Also, the prospect of seeing 18 and Krillin as a battle couple is pretty amazing.
 
Yeah, the teamwork is what I'm looking forward to the most. And not just fan service-y things like the 18 / Krillin couple battle. I want to see crazy, out there combinations like Roshi and Buu working together, or Gohan and Vegeta.
 
considering its a battle royale and all im pretty sure the tactics will be there plus some fights already have had to some tactics in some arcs too so maybe thats where the tournament of power arc will really set that up and its nice to see so many characers i like actually being in the action, aside from videl.

Although im quite curious if hit will be there and more curious to see how good this jiren is too.
 
Hit, and all the other Universe Six fighters are in the opening. It's quick, but they're there. We will be seeing Hit, Cabba, Frost, Magetta, and Botamo again.

I guarantee Hit is gonna be taken out by Jiren to show how tough he is.
 
yeah maybe, kinda hard to imagine though due to hit being so crazy.
 
This past episode was great. Piccolo and Gohan were definitely the highlights. Seeing Piccolo school Gohan on being too arrogant in combat was nice and seeing Gohan regain that lost power was cathartic. Plus, that severed arm blast was cool.

18 and Krillin sparring alongside our first look at Caulifla were both cool.
 
Episode titles have leaked. MASSIVE SPOILER

Apparently Buu is sleeping through the tournament again so a desperate Goku goes to hell recruit Freeza.

Yes, fucking FREEZA.

I really hate that Buu is getting screwed over again. He has sat out all of the past arcs aside from his fight with Basil, which admittedly, was awesome, and I was really looking forward to seeing him. Instead we have Freeza.

I wonder how the hell they'd convince him to join. He is most definitely not a team player and would not abide by the no killing rule, and who's to say that he won't kill Tien or Krillin the second he gets the chance?

They say Buu won't wake up for two months. Just stick him in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
 
This is lame.

I understand the merit of putting Freeza on the team from a writing perspective, because uneasy alliance setups like this can be interesting if done skillfully.

But if it really turns out the switcharoo sticks and isn't just a gag episode, this is one seriously clumsy way to implement it. It's a profoundly stupid marketing move to take Buu, who up til now really wasn't given anything to do in this new series and who people were waiting for, and dedicate several scenes to building hype for his return to relevancy, only to unceremoniously deflate all of that again and kick him off the roster. Using the same tired excuse that has been used twice before already, no less.

I don't really consider myself a Buu fan; My approach to the character is pretty much take it or leave it. But I feel for those who are, and who had their hopes built up to see more of him, only to get shafted yet again.



As for his replacement: It kind of makes me roll my eyes. I feel like the Freeza thing has been played out. He's had his arc/movie and they kind of failed to do anything interesting with him, probably because there WAS nothing substantial left to do with him. I think his story was concluded after Trunks cut him into ribbons. The only interesting thing left would have been for Vegeta to get the kill and thus closure for his own past. But then they didn't do that either, so... I don't see what yet another return will accomplish.

In terms of battle spectacle, Freeza is kind of... boring. Most of the intrigue of him as a villain came from his role in Goku and Vegeta's backstory, his sadistic personality, and the fact that he was on an entirely new scale of power that seemed absolutely insurmountable at the time. In terms of skill set though, Freeza is actually pretty vanilla. He's strong and he uses ki blasts. That's it. That's a rather hefty step down from Buu's set of weird abilities like absorption, transformation, being a weird blobmonster, etc.. To say nothing of other villains and what they could have brought to the table.

So yeah, rather eyebrow-raising move there on Toriyama's part. But he's known to enjoy messing with people, so it might be intentional.
 
I'm holding out for this to be a gag episode that Toei created merely for filler, but the fact that Buu does nothing in the opening or ending (aside from sleeping) does not bode well.

The only interesting thing I can see coming out of Freeza's return is him revealing that Beerus authorized the destruction of Planet Vegeta, which might cause Vegeta to turn on Beerus, but at this point I don't know if Vegeta cares anymore. I know Goku wouldn't care.

We might get an interesting interaction between him and Frost, who is already diet Freeza, but I still would much rather have Buu for sheer uniqueness.

At least with Freeza the Resurrection F arc will feel less pointless. As of right now it doesn't really fit with the rest of Super. Being the worst arc certainly doesn't help.

Honestly, I'm more upset about Buu being left out than Freeza being added. Using the same sleeping excuse for three arcs now is just lazy, lazy writing. He sleeps through Freeza's invasion, he sleeps through the Universe 6 tournament, and now he falls asleep during the tournament where the fate of the universe is at stake. This is after getting an Exhibition fight and getting a new slimmed down form. I'm starting to feel like they gave him the exhibition match out of pity to compensate for not being in the tournament.

I'll remain cautiously pessimistic (is that a thing?) I scoffed at the idea of an evil Goku and that ended up being the best Super arc so far.