Author Topic: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?  (Read 3491 times)

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2018, 05:14:51 PM »
my personal view is:

-keep character pages
-merge enemy pages into a general list of enemies in Smash X
-merge special move pages into the associated character's page
-keep stages
-merge assist trophies into a general list of assist trophies in Smash X
-merge pokemon into a list
-merge items into a list

i realize this is kind of drastic but that's how i feel it
Tbh, my opinion is basically that, but also merge the stages into a list.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2018, 05:16:17 PM »
i'm fine with merging assist trophies and poke balls
but not stages and general items

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2018, 05:58:47 PM »
my personal view is:

-keep character pages
-merge enemy pages into a general list of enemies in Smash X
-merge special move pages into the associated character's page
-keep stages
-merge assist trophies into a general list of assist trophies in Smash X
-merge pokemon into a list
-merge items into a list

i realize this is kind of drastic but that's how i feel it
I think that's probably the best way to go about it. It means that only the unnecessary information is removed, but everything is still to an extent covered. I'm not totally sure about how to go about items and assist trophies, but I think merging what we can is the best thing to do, as well as throwing in plenty of links to other Wikis.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2018, 06:29:32 PM »
i'm fine with merging assist trophies and poke balls
but not stages and general items
I agree with those, although I'd also argue for the merging of the Smash Run enemies. I feel like the items and stages are important enough to remain separate articles.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2018, 06:48:02 PM »
A proposal is up about making the Smash series an exception to our coverage policy. If this proposal passes, we'll be able to actually make decisions about what content should or shouldn't be covered.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2018, 04:32:16 PM »
Now that the proposal has passed, we have the ability to mark certain pages for deletion. There are two ways we can go about this: making a series of small proposals to take care of each individual element, or making one large proposal that encompasses everything that should be deleted in one fell swoop. We can also mix-and-match, with smaller proposals taking care of the smaller stuff while a larger proposal is carefully planned out. So, let's discuss.

First thought: the Subspace Emissary/Smash Run/Adventure Mode enemies should be merged away.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2018, 04:34:27 PM »
I support the idea. I feel like a huge list of "enemies in Smash" would be overly large and unnecessary, but I feel we could keep all the information we need to cover effectively by merging them into a "list of enemies in SSBM adventure mode", "list of enemies in Subspace Emissary", and "list of enemies in Smash Run."

I'm not sure about Subspace Emissary bosses. My immediate thought is they should stay as their own articles while enemies get merged, but I'm open to suggestions!

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2018, 04:42:22 PM »
Per individual pages for the enemies. I think that merging the Subspace bosses would be fine, in a page similar to Smash Taunt characters.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2018, 04:44:07 PM »
First thought: the Subspace Emissary/Smash Run/Adventure Mode enemies should be merged away.

I'm fine with this. Thoughts on major stage hazard enemies, like Metal Face? They could probably stay, or at least be merged with the stage information itself (though that would look clunky).

EDIT: I think the bosses should remain their own page, since they're important to how the characters meet in SSE.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2018, 04:46:55 PM »
EDIT: I think the bosses should remain their own page, since they're important to how the characters meet in SSE.
Eh. They're given no context as to who they are, and they're entirely interchangeable between each others in the story (besides maybe Ridley). And even then, people like Rayquaza and Duon are just kinda... there.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2018, 04:55:37 PM »
OK, personally, I think proposals-wise we should make larger proposals that deal with a whole category of articles; e.g., what to do about moves, what to do about enemies, what to do about items, etc. I'd say make enemies into lists, keep stages separate, potentially leave assist trophies separate (But I'm not 100% sure about that one), probably merge character-specific moves to the character's articles (Again, not fully sure), but I don't know what to do about items. I'd like to hear other suggestions too though, these are just my best guesses really.

I support the idea. I feel like a huge list of "enemies in Smash" would be overly large and unnecessary, but I feel we could keep all the information we need to cover effectively by merging them into a "list of enemies in SSBM adventure mode", "list of enemies in Subspace Emissary", and "list of enemies in Smash Run."

I'm not sure about Subspace Emissary bosses. My immediate thought is they should stay as their own articles while enemies get merged, but I'm open to suggestions!
I think this is quite a good idea.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2018, 05:08:47 PM »
I support the idea. I feel like a huge list of "enemies in Smash" would be overly large and unnecessary, but I feel we could keep all the information we need to cover effectively by merging them into a "list of enemies in SSBM adventure mode", "list of enemies in Subspace Emissary", and "list of enemies in Smash Run."

I'm not sure about Subspace Emissary bosses. My immediate thought is they should stay as their own articles while enemies get merged, but I'm open to suggestions!
I agree with this as well.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2018, 06:39:33 PM »
I'd say make enemies into lists, keep stages separate, potentially leave assist trophies separate (But I'm not 100% sure about that one), probably merge character-specific moves to the character's articles.
I agree with this, other than Assist Trophy characters. However, I feel each item should remain separate.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2018, 08:13:37 PM »
I'd say make enemies into lists, keep stages separate, potentially leave assist trophies separate (But I'm not 100% sure about that one), probably merge character-specific moves to the character's articles.
I agree with this, other than Assist Trophy characters. However, I feel each item should remain separate.
Items I'm curious about - what makes them different than, say, Pokemon? Or Assist Trophies?

Personally I stand by this list:

my personal view is:

-keep character pages
-merge enemy pages into a general list of enemies in Smash X
-merge special move pages into the associated character's page
-keep stages
-merge assist trophies into a general list of assist trophies in Smash X
-merge pokemon into a list
-merge items into a list

i realize this is kind of drastic but that's how i feel it
But I'd go along with a general consensus for other things if it arises. So far we have one for the enemies, at least!

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2018, 08:42:07 PM »
I don't think anything needs to be done about our smash coverage
but if we have to do anything I support Blocky's proposal
minus merging items into a big list.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2018, 09:11:12 PM »
Yeah, I'm not a fan of merging the items. If we have to merge things, I'd rather it be the non-Mario enemies and the non-Mario-related moves.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2018, 10:06:55 PM »
In my opinion, items are a major part of the series, like stages, that are commonly used in the series, while Pokémon and Assist Trophies are minor characters that assist the fighters after using specific items, so I feel it makes sense to merge them and keep the items.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2018, 02:01:55 PM »
I personally feel that Smash is more of a guest appearance than a crossover, so you may not agree with the points below.  This is solely my opinion.
-keep fighters
-merge items, but leave the Mario items alone
-merge assist trophies by game, but leave the Mario trophies (like Waluigi) alone.
-keep stages
-merge special moves into characters
-merge enemies, but leave the Mario enemies (such as Metal Mario) alone.
-delete Pokemon (yes, I said "delete", not "merge"; these guys have nothing to do with Mario)

I know that last one is going to be the most controversial, but this is solely my opinion.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2018, 02:46:04 PM »
Just chiming in to say that although I didn't explicitly say it, I agree with there being no need to edit the coverage on the pages such as Metal Mario, Waluigi, Freezy, and other Mario ones.

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Re: What do we do with Super Smash Bros?
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2018, 02:54:08 PM »
Make the special  move article redricts, maybe? :yoshi: