What's Super Mario fans' thought about SMG4 series?

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Dorayaki

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SMG4 is super wellknown as an original? comedy show on Youtube.

To people who actually never ever touch this series: SMG4 began as a series where SMG4, the main OC protagonist (along with SMG3 and some other secondary regulars) befriend with Mario and idle around Mushroom Kingdom and do silly stuff, so in short, it is simply a typical Mario fanfic.

But in recent years, the expansion of new main cast are mostly OCs instead of other Mario world characters or videogame icons and the focus on Super Mario characters is gone. The establishment of SMG4 Castle is often considered as the watershed of the series since it was the direct way to focus on SMG4 cast while characters around Mushroom Kingdom are rarely seen again.

Still SMG4 also proves their talent in making original stories and characters, as they've made many fantastic story arcs about each character, and feels like they can actually stand on their own new series and might even inspire their own videogame if the team want to.

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"But fan fic creator can do anything about his/her own creation, what's the problem?", well this is sure an answer for all kinds of fanfic cases.

I think SMG4's problem is setting itself in a weird position: it's now not quite a Super Mario fanfic, but it is still based on the Mario world. If becoming an original series means to avoid license issues, staying in Mario world pretty much just falls at the last hurdle. Some fans have said why SMG4 not consider a direct reboot where the story doesn't take place in videogame world, but it feels like it's hard for the team to give up the whole progress they've made so far, which is actually understandable to me.

Honestly I don't think making more OC stories in Mario world is a bad thing, some other fanfics do that too. But many signs show that the show want to get away from Super Mario characters or most settings from Mario or the videogame world in general, despite they exist here, it's kinda coming to a point that it's both deliberate and unnecessary. Mostly whenever the modern SMG4 cast enter a different game theme, the vg character are often just removed, while the story is about how SMG4 experience that game theme. However, vg characters still play abit part for the purpose of that game so removing them would cause many weird contradiction. It also further gives fans the expression "SMG4 team don't seem to respect vg characters enough."

One of the series chapter "Waluigi for Smash" arc is sort a classic problem. It sure tries to highlight the internet meme about Walugi for Smash, but the whole show feels strange when SMG4 cast try to stop him but they're none of the business of Super Smash bros, and the actual Smash fighters don't even get to participate in this story arc, which confuses Smash bros fans in such way "okay if Waluigi is so upset why he doesn't just attack the official fighters?" (actually there is a Waluigi Smash rap battle fan video for this idea.)

I also think SMG4 missed the chance to show their talent to give canon Mario or more vg characters meme power like they did with the said Waluigi, Francis (who SMG4 team obviously love) or other vg characters from early time. Early fans have been waiting for a Toad arc or Daisy arc, but obviously they're not planning that today. I'm also very surprised to have not seen Warioware in SMG4 story despite WW cast literally looks like SMG4's preference. Overall, I think it's actually a dissapointment to fans of SMG4 cast because they were also not given a proper chance to interact with Mario and vg characters.

What' your take on this series? Do you think they need to make some adjustment in the current format? Or you think they should do a total reboot and get away from the early stories?
 
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SMG4 and the content he makes is just like 90% of all YouTube content creators out there; Give them a little bit of fame, and it'll eventually go to their heads. Granted, SMG4 is one of those YouTube content creators I never expected to let the fame rise to their heads, and that kinda breaks my heart a little. That's all I'm gonna say on the matter.
 
Personally I see the SMG4 channel as one of the more influential channels around with not only unique characters and storylines about also a channel that has a lot of heart sure the channel may seem like a cash grab in someparts alongside the more scummy parts of the Glitch company by proxy but even still I will always enjoy the SMG4 channel even if some of the recent episodes have been hit or miss.
 
I used to like it when it was Mario characters doing stupid stuff each episode, I'm not a fan of the countless anime characters and arcs they have now.
 
It's stylistically interesting and unique, used to be anyway, the strong mixed media approach is endearing. His videos ingrained a lot of meme soundbytes into my head. Old stuff can be cute when there aren't slurs and nasty stuff like that, new stuff, I don't care all that much about.
 
From the little I've seen of it, it's not really my style of humor, but I'm happy that Glitch Productions was able to grow out of it and foster creative indie animation series and creators.
 
I used to be a huge fan, but it kind of fell off last year or the year before, if I recall correctly. The constant arcs and story-driven video moving forward while pushing the "haha funny meme" content back was not something I liked. I think I stumbled across a video in 2018 or at some point, and it was of the old style. While it has changed, sometimes I will check in on it to see what has been going on, occasionally watch a video that interests me, but that's about it now.
 
I think SMG4 is not very faithful to the Mario franchise at all. The way the characters are portrayed are not accurate to the games. Albeit, that may be the intention, but nonetheless, I am still not a huge fan of the channel's content.
 
Dean The Yosh Yoshter said:
SMG4 and the content he makes is just like 90% of all YouTube content creators out there; Give them a little bit of fame, and it'll eventually go to their heads. Granted, SMG4 is one of those YouTube content creators I never expected to let the fame rise to their heads, and that kinda breaks my heart a little. That's all I'm gonna say on the matter.
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If only talking about SMG4's original story about the OCs, I do think they're doing the right job. The indirectly intentional conflict with the Mario/videogame world is why the SMG4 contents feel awkward. Feels like planting a beautiful sunflower in a desert.

I'd really love to hear SMG4 staff talk about their vision about the series if they really mean to be innocent.

Wile E. Coyote said:
I used to like it when it was Mario characters doing stupid stuff each episode, I'm not a fan of the countless anime characters and arcs they have now.
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I feel like SMG4 team honestly just want to do something different. Would work better if the new era is its own series, but as I said, they dare not to for personal reason.
 
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Dorayaki said:
If only talking about SMG4's original story about the OCs, I do think they're doing the right job. The indirectly intentional conflict with the Mario/videogame world is why the SMG4 contents feel awkward. Feels like planting a beautiful sunflower in a desert.

I'd really love to hear SMG4 staff talk about their vision about the series if they really mean to be innocent
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I personally disagree, but it's your opinion, and you're free to have it. After all, not everyone has the same taste in YouTube content as the other.
 
I personally think it's weird how they constantly stretch out Mario and Luigi's faces lol 😱
 
Dean The Yosh Yoshter said:
I personally disagree, but it's your opinion
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Excuse me you mean? You don't like this series?

LuigiFan24 said:
I think SMG4 is not very faithful to the Mario franchise at all. The way the characters are portrayed are not accurate to the games. Albeit, that may be the intention, but nonetheless, I am still not a huge fan of the channel's content.
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That'd kinda intentional. It's freedom to portray a character with an entirely different personality. I think it comes down to whether your version of said character is attractive enough to appeal people.

I think SMG4 nailed it in the beginning. Not quite with the recent era for the reason I stated.
 
Dorayaki said:
Excuse me you mean? You don't like this series?
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I mean that I disagree with the more story-driven, original character oriented videos that SMG4 has been putting out over the last few years being well done. Like, the reason why lots of people, including myself fell in love with SMG4 and his content in the first place was because it involved Mario being portrayed as an absolute buffoon, and his friends being portrayed as equally incompetent, with SMG4 as his Mariosona being the only smart character in all the land.

By the time his content began to delve into more story/lore-driven territory and the characters such as Meggy and even SMG4 himself as a self-insert began to take on more original/non-patented appearances, that's where I and a lot of other fans of the channel began to drift away from the channel because it had gravitated away from what we originally loved about the channel. It doesn't help that the reputation of SMG4 and his brother began to get sullied after former employees of the brothers' company, GLITCH Productions began to come out with allegations of them being abusive on the working floor in recent years either.
 
I honestly think Luigi is the brainier one compared to Mario, but not to this extreme lol
 
The fact that Mario's character is twisted into something grotesque puts me off the whole thing. In fact, I do not know how many Mario characters are still their true selves. I guess Luigi is one where his personality still resembles the original Luigi, but what other characters are still true to their originals?

Thank you for reading.
 
winstein said:
I do not know how many Mario characters are still their true selves.
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Well this series means to memefy the characters with very different selves, I can get that.

I tend to see SMG4 Mario, SMG4 Peach or others as different selves in this fanfic. It's fun to see their contrary personality from the canon.

Dean The Yosh Yoshter said:
I mean that I disagree with the more story-driven, original character oriented videos that SMG4 has been putting out over the last few years being well done. Like, the reason why lots of people, including myself fell in love with SMG4 and his content in the first place was because it involved Mario being portrayed as an absolute buffoon, and his friends being portrayed as equally incompetent, with SMG4 as his Mariosona being the only smart character in all the land.
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Well yeah, as I said, I understand the change of direction definitely would hardly appeal same group of audience, that's the main challenge for this series. I acknowledge that SMG4 team is really good at giving clown characters deep plot. They do very well with other brand new shows with that concept, but would be contradictory when they're changing the direction of an existed series which wasn't meant for this.

As a person who don't mind the change of storytelling, I think it bothers me more as a Super Mario fan as the current arcs have much less to do with either Super Mario or videogames. As I said above I think SMG4 version of Mario characters are not the same ones, thus I'd want to know what comes the Mario characters become in this version, and also want to see them being the stars of story arcs as well.

Not sure if the recent Princess SMG3 is a sign to show that they want to make up, tho, since they directly point out that the Mario main cast are also in danger.

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Dorayaki said:
Well yeah, as I said, I understand the change of direction definitely would hardly appeal same group of audience, that's the main challenge for this series. I acknowledge that SMG4 team is really good at giving clown characters deep plot. They do very well with other brand new shows with that concept, but would be contradictory when they're changing the direction of an existed series which wasn't meant for this.

As a person who don't mind the change of storytelling, my bigger concern is still not properly giving the Mario characters story arcs like they did with SMG4 gang. I can understand the focus on SMG4 gang, but as I said above, I think SMG4 version of Mario characters are their own creation in storytelling and I expect them to also count the Mario characters as part of the mission for the story completion.

Not sure if the recent Princess SMG3 is a sign to show that they want to make up, tho, since they directly point out that the Mario main cast are also in danger.
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It's honestly surprising that Nintendo still hasn't come knocking on the Lerdwichagul Brothers' door for their continued usage of Mario characters in their SMG4 video's in spite of how big the Lerdwichagul Brothers have gotten in terms of video production and the like. SuperMarioLogan, an even more controversial channel (Formerly at this point) centered around Mario characters ended up garnering so much controversy that Nintendo themselves had to step in and ban SuperMarioLogan from usage of characters based on their intellectual property, forcing Logan T. to replace all Mario-based characters in his video's with original characters that (As far as I'm concerned) share the same personalities and roles as the original Mario-based incarnations. So how come Nintendo hasn't come after the Lerdwichagul Brothers for their usage of Mario characters in their video's yet seeing as the two of them are an even bigger production team and level than Logan T.?
 
Dean The Yosh Yoshter said:
It's honestly surprising that Nintendo still hasn't come knocking on the Lerdwichagul Brothers' door for their continued usage of Mario characters in their SMG4 video's in spite of how big the Lerdwichagul Brothers have gotten in terms of video production and the like. SuperMarioLogan, an even more controversial channel (Formerly at this point) centered around Mario characters ended up garnering so much controversy that Nintendo themselves had to step in and ban SuperMarioLogan from usage of characters based on their intellectual property, forcing Logan T. to replace all Mario-based characters in his video's with original characters that (As far as I'm concerned) share the same personalities and roles as the original Mario-based incarnations. So how come Nintendo hasn't come after the Lerdwichagul Brothers for their usage of Mario characters in their video's yet seeing as the two of them are an even bigger production team and level than Logan T.?
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I hadn't even thought of that. This is the main reason why I don't personally watch SMG4 with all that out-of-place things Mario characters do in it and that's why I say it is not faithful to the franchise at all. Nintendo doesn't like their characters in a bad light and has always been a company targeting a family-friendly audience, which both SuperMarioLogan and SMG4 don't do, so it's not surprising if Nintendo's not afraid to step in and take them down. I say it's a good move, though.
 
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