Woman's March

Swiftie_Luma said:
Nabber said:
Swiftie_Luma said:
Just imagine how the world would go nuts if men were saying they are proud of their penises.
hate to break it to you but they already do
That does not mean its ok or relevant
yeah but, you brought that up as a point and he responded. how is it irrelevant?

the vagina thing is a reference to donald trump's "grab them by the pussy" talk iirc.
 
not sure the whole middle east counts as third world

besides, problems in the middle east are allowed to coexist with problems in the rest of the world, too
 
Stargazing said:
Swiftie_Luma said:
Nabber said:
Swiftie_Luma said:
Just imagine how the world would go nuts if men were saying they are proud of their penises.
hate to break it to you but they already do
That does not mean its ok or relevant
yeah but, you brought that up as a point and he responded. how is it irrelevant?

the vagina thing is a reference to donald trump's "grab them by the pussy" talk iirc.

No.

What im saying as it's not relevant as in sooooo important to go an dress up as your private parts.

Who does that?

And for the other part all im gonna say is that if this was for the sake of mocking Trump Mcnuggets then its not working because those women are only making a fool of themselves dressed like that , even have the audacity of involving children.

I also like how all of you are super concerned about the vaginas and penises thing , and yet i bet my soul none would have the balls to actually speak out for the sake of womens right in Pakistan , Syria and regions of the middle east that actually need this.

Me , as a person who actually lives in a third world country , find laughtable that many of the people that assists to these events , clearly privileged people that live in a first world country in a western society , pretend that women are ´´oppressed´´ to the levels of parts of the world in which people literally kill you because of your sexual orientation.

The only thing that picked up any interest was when they brought up abortion , and even that's a bit flawed because abortion should only be an option for rape victims and women that can die during the process of giving birth.

Abortion SHOULD NOT be an option for irresponsible people that have sex like they are playing marbles. Why should a careless person end the life of a soon to be newborn out of her clear irresposability?? Lunacy at its finest.
 
no one's going around saying that women's rights in the middle east aren't important so I don't know what you're talking about
 
actually i do talk about problems in the middle east/third world as well as problems in places like north america and europe. maybe not on here, but i don't turn around and ignore problems like those. women's marches were happening all over the world, in almost every country, so i am pretty sure the rights of those in the places you are talking about were not ignored in the marches.

i'd like for this to be a peaceful conversation though, you don't need to insult the people who were dressed up like that or people who do "have sex like playing marbles" to get your point across.
 
Swiftie_Luma said:
Nabber said:
Swiftie_Luma said:
Just imagine how the world would go nuts if men were saying they are proud of their penises.
hate to break it to you but they already do

Hate to break it for you too , but

That does not mean its ok or relevant , in any case. Being ´´proud´´ of your genitals sounds as stupid as it looks , whatever the case is.

I would love to see all this nonsense on the middle east , you know, the third world that actually needs people to stand up for women.
The current president has made crude comments about sexual assault and plans to defund planned parenthood. I think women here have a right to be angry.
 
Swiftie_Luma said:
2) Why are there people so obssesed and ´´proud´´ of their vaginas.
They're proud of the fact that they're female. They're showing that they aren't going to cower at the politicians currently insulting and trying to take away woman's rights and they're going to fight.
 
Swiftie_Luma said:
1) What was the point of the event?

AFAIK Women still have their rights untouched.
Republicans have a track record of being directly against what are arguably women's rights. Women are afraid that Republicans will defund Planned Parenthood (this is realistic from the women's perspective; the Republicans are doing this out of a completely warped belief that the only thing it does is abortions, a notion so bizarre that it seems like they really don't give a *bleep* about what really does and focus like a laser on the abortion part of it), rollback Roe v. Wade (a key Supreme Court decision that gives the women a right to have an abortion), and oppose efforts for pay equality. People are afraid that women's rights will be nuked to the Stone Ages (a hyperbole by me, not them) and it is disgusting that we elected a man who casually called women gendered insults like "bimbo", "slut", "whore", and brags about grabbing women by their crotches.

Swiftie_Luma said:
2) Why are there people so obssesed and ´´proud´´ of their vaginas.

Just imagine how the world would go nuts if men were saying they are proud of their penises.

Im sorry , but this is like a joke. All i saw on my feed were celebrities trying to make speeches and pretend the USA is like the middle east when it comes to women.
It's a counterpoint to how Donald Trump bragged about groping women, not giving a care about their personal space and decency. They're trying to give off a provocative air of defiance since Donald Trump is viewed as a sexist bully.

And men already are proud of their cockle-doodle-doos. You get conversations about them talking about brawk brawk sizes, the phrase "grow a pair", the phrase "X has the balls to do this". You don't see women talking about how awesome their donut holes are or that people need to grow an indent or another mouth or whatever.

Swiftie_Luma said:
What im saying as it's not relevant as in sooooo important to go an dress up as your private parts.

Who does that?

And for the other part all im gonna say is that if this was for the sake of mocking Trump Mcnuggets then its not working because those women are only making a fool of themselves dressed like that , even have the audacity of involving children.
Protestors do that. It's typical of protestors to dress up as what you call "silly". It draws attention and is mildly provocative. Women bring their children perhaps to teach their children that Donald Trump's remarks are NOT okay. But we fight with love back and perhaps display our frustration and bitterness, but this was a peaceful protest overall. Women bring their daughters for a historical moment and they hope to influence their children, especially their daughters. I see no problem of that.

Dressing up wasn't directly mocking Trump but a way to illustrate defiance.

Swiftie_Luma said:
I also like how all of you are super concerned about the vaginas and penises thing , and yet i bet my soul none would have the balls to actually speak out for the sake of womens right in Pakistan , Syria and regions of the middle east that actually need this.

Me , as a person who actually lives in a third world country , find laughtable that many of the people that assists to these events , clearly privileged people that live in a first world country in a western society , pretend that women are ´´oppressed´´ to the levels of parts of the world in which people literally kill you because of your sexual orientation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

We are willing to fight for oppressed women in the world, but we gotta first focus on our problems at home for the first step to actually do something. And we are doing things, but I'm guessing it's not as publicized.

Swiftie_Luma said:
The only thing that picked up any interest was when they brought up abortion , and even that's a bit flawed because abortion should only be an option for rape victims and women that can die during the process of giving birth.

Abortion SHOULD NOT be an option for irresponsible people that have sex like they are playing marbles. Why should a careless person end the life of a soon to be newborn out of her clear irresposability?? Lunacy at its finest.
IMO abortion should be readily available for any woman who seeks it. Remember, even protected sex can lead to an unwanted pregnancy. Most women who seek abortion have already made a tough choice and they're fully fledged adults citizens who should have total control over unborn, unconscious, brain-not-developed life. My mom herself had abortions because she was simply not ready and the pregnancy was unplanned and she had no regrets. If that one cell where my sister and I split were aborted? Well, my sister and I just won't exist and I don't think I'll miss anything since I have no conscience.

That's an abortion argument here, but I think that's going to go off-rails, so I'll stop there.
 
Im fine with people being triggered and attacking the golden goomba of the bunch.

Someone needed to be the counter part of all this mess , and that´s a role that i can play without remorse , Well as long as the harassment messages in my box do not show up like that other time , right mr ´´you know who you are´´?

If you have a stance , i accept it , but i honestly find hard to identify with any of this other than stuff about Gay rights and equality of payment between genders.