Who are you voting for (or would vote for if you could)?

[Stargazing]

Well Cruz is out of the running now.

isn't every republican but trump out

 

[Polymorph]

Well Cruz is out of the running now.

isn't every republican but trump out

Yes

 

[Viper26]

Sanders would be running America like if it is the united Socialist States of America with his ideas with the lower class and free college tuitions.

you sound like free college tuition are a bad thing

also, you're only saying "socialist" because it's the hip and trendy buzzword that conservatives use that they actually don't know the meaning of

Well I know the meaning of Socialist countries. The problem about Sanders is that he is making the people that can't afford a lot be able to do things people with jobs can do.

 

[Xiahou Ba]

The problem about Sanders is that he is making the people that can't afford a lot be able to do things people with jobs can do.

that's a problem with him?

considering my financially struggling, extremely hard-working family, making college far less expensive is one of the best things in the world

 

[Viper26]

But I do like that he will make college cost less

 

[Andymii]

The problem about Sanders is that he is making the people that can't afford a lot be able to do things people with jobs can do.

that's a problem with him?

considering my financially struggling, extremely hard-working family, making college far less expensive is one of the best things in the world

I'm not old enough for this to personally affect me yet (so pardon me if I sound ignorant), but there's truth in both arguments. Idealistically, it sounds great if everyone who worked equally as hard got paid equally. At the same time, it also seems unreasonable to the current middle class who have already worked hard to establish their financial position for lower-income lazier (unlike some of the hard-working ones, who legitimately deserve a boost) folks to suddenly start to catch up. The sad truth is also that hard work does not directly correlate with more pay as much as we think; I could mow lawns for a living and work an admirable amount of hours, but I'll never even make close to many other jobs that arguably use just as much "work."

But yeah, cheap college sounds like a great idea. I'm not saying that education is everything, but it's pretty important when getting a job. The saddest thing is when a student with a lot of potential is not able to attend university due to financial reasons and ultimately remains in poverty.

 

[DragonFreak]

At the same time, it also seems unreasonable to the current middle class who have already worked hard to establish their financial position for lower-income lazier (unlike some of the hard-working ones, who legitimately deserve a boost) folks to suddenly start to catch up.

Low income does not equal lazier by any standards. Maybe sometimes, but DEFINITELY not all the time.

 

[Xiahou Ba]

y'know andymii, the whole lazy low-income welfare leecher stereotype is simply just that: a stereotype. the vast majority of lower-income people work extremely hard, harder than they should. we don't need to invoke that argument when most lower income people aren't lazy people at all.

you're probably right on being too young to understand this but...there's a crapton of variables and situations that affect people's finances that they can't control at all.

 

[Andymii]

lower-income lazier (unlike some of the hard-working ones, who legitimately deserve a boost)

Crap, I worded that REALLY poorly. The arguement's more like "people who are low-income AND lazy get a boost as well, which is unfair to their harder working peers, whether they be low income or high income." Nothing against low-income users getting advancing, but with many things, the lazy few will benefit on the tail of their hardworking fellow citizens. I appreciate Bernie's ideas, but that's just a flaw I spotted.

And no, I don't belive in any way low-income people in general are lazy. That's ridiculous, I hope I'm not that uninformed. :P

 

[Nysic]

Like BLOF said, the problem with that argument is the fact that the overwhelming majority of people with low-income aren't "lazy" at all. Just think about it: if you worked a minimum-wage job, do you think you would be working hard to get everything you could out of it, or doing the bare minimum? I'd assume the former.

If Bernie succeeded in everything that he wanted to do (Which he obviously won't, even if he gets re-elected for another term in 2020), sure, the 3 Americans who don't "deserve" financial aid will get undeserved help, but nearly everyone else will benefit in some way.