SonicMario
Star Spirit
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Farina said:
Eh, now that I think about it I can just scratch off some of these right away for pretty obvious reasons and/or they're in a group I've said probably won't stand a chance in the ballot and/or I already covered them in some way.
Pokemon Trainer
Type of Character: Returning Veteran(?)
Franchise: Pokemon
My Level of Want
If you mean another Pokemon Trainer like how it was in Brawl. You do know that's kinda asking alot because that's 3 Pokemon in one fighter. And the 3DS limitations is why they had to cut down the Trainer to just Charizard in the first place. I wouldn't want this just for the pain of the developers trying to figure that out. The cut of the Pokemon Trainer was a very understandable one given how complex he was.
Estimated Chance
It isn't going to happen. Again, Pokemon Trainer was shrunk down to just Charizard for a reason. He was by far the most popular of the trio in Brawl and even with entirely new Pokemon it's asking for too much of the developers.
Captain Syrup
Type of Character: Newcomer
Franchise: Wario
My Level of Want
I'm not too familiar with her having not played alot of the Wario Land games. I'd just be curious what she brings in. Though I think a character from WarioWare would be more likely then Syrup at the moment. Wario Land hasn't been quite as relevant in recent years.
Estimated Chance
Very low, it's been a while since we had a real Wario Land game. The last one being Shake It on the Wii where it is her most recent appearence. I don't think she's major enough to get anywhere on the Ballot as if a 2nd Wario rep is at all possible it would probably go to a WarioWare character instead.
Roy
But he is already in the game! He's the best Fire Emblem character. See, the gang's all here!
...Ok, ok, I'll stop kidding around
Type of Character: Returning Veteran
Franchise: Fire Emblem
My Level of Want
I'll be blunt. I don't want Fire Emblem!Roy back much at all. I don't feel he's all too necessary. He only has the following he does because of his inclusion in Melee. And I never felt his inclusion was justified. His game wasn't even out yet when Melee was released. Inclusions for the sake of advertising a future product are an insult to the standards of a Smash Bros. character inclusion should be. It'd be like if they included the Inklings from Splatoon before the game is even out yet. Roy had not proven he's worth a spot in Smash Bros. at the time and in fact turned out to become one of the least popular Lords in the franchise. So yes, most of the support comes from Nostalgia for Melee rather then on the merits of the character itself. It's people that are like that who are probably upset at Project M for making Dr. Mario not a seperate character just because it's "Not how Melee did it!" despite Project M also bothering to include Roy and Mewtwo.
Estimated Chance
I do have to give it that he's still a veteran and will be requested quite a bit due to his cult following sheerly from Melee. But I don't think he's coming back. As much as people have their jokes about the Roy Koopaling already being there. THere's actually a little bit of a valid point of the Koopaling Roy may be the only Roy we get from now on. If they were going to include Fire Emblem's Roy somewhere in the future they'd probably make not sure to have any confusion in terms of names by making Roy into Roy Koopa. Not to mention Roy Koopa even has Roy's old crowd chant of "Roy's our Boy!". This makes bringing Fire Emblem's Roy quite difficult unless they decide to either change Roy the Koopaling's name in-game to Roy Koopa and FE's Roy keeps just Roy or give Roy some sort of title that differeinates him from Koopaling Roy that took away of just using Roy. And as much of a cult following he has, it's not as adamant as Mewtwo's fans and Mewtwo was a far more deserving return. I'm afraid Roy's fans are forced to stick with Project M for anything Recent going for him.
Pichu
Type of Character: Returning Veteran
Franchise: Pokemon
My Level of Want
Nope nope nope. Don't really need him. Sakurai has said himself Pichu was a joke character from the beginning. And is also the one character both Sakurai and even the Melee fan pandering Project M has not made much solid effort in bringing back. The only reason to include Pichu is if there's enough fans who believe in true 100% No cuts at all in the series no matter what. Which is just tough luck for just some of the characters. That goal is no longer possible after the 3DS version's limitations alone were unable to be dealt with that proved to be the demise of Ice Climbers, Squirtle, and Ivysaur.
Estimated Chance
Not happening whatsoever. The only thing bringing back Pichu does is pander to the crowd that believes every single little thing from Melee must return. Mewtwo's already enough and he's popular beyond just Melee Nostalgia. And he's coming to Smash 4 in just two days! (Well for those who registered both versions anyway)
Ninten
Type of Character: Newcomer
Franchise: Earthbound/MOTHER
My Level of Want
My issue with Ninten is he basically looks identical to Ness. Earthbound is still called Mother 2, but to a newcomer it may feel more like a Remake then a Sequel given the character designs. Maybe there is some slight differences. But from an untrained eye he has the sideways hat as well as the same clothing design. People would be kind of confused seeing him.
Estimated Chance
Ness already has his basic design down, I don't see him being chosen from the Ballot whatsoever. Having Lucas back is a blessing enough for fans of the franchise. I doubt they go full-scale by including Ninten too.
(And as for Matthew, I think it's just the same overall thing with Issac except he's not even the more popular choice and if Nintendo chose him from the ballot it would be like "The fans want Issac... so let's give him his son because it's the most Recent Golden Sun game! That will surely go well with the fans!")
Mallo
Type of Character: Newcomer
Franchise: Pushmo
My Level of Want
Eh... I actually have Pushmo on my 3DS. It's a neat little puzzle game, but I don't see it too necessary to include Mallo in the Roster
Estimated Chance
I think the most likely eShop character's hopes were already dashed with Dillon becoming an Assist Trophy. There's just not enough that stand out enough to be the eShop rep. But maybe next game we'll see if the eShop has gained more recognition enough to include a character or two from it.
Bomberman
Type of Character: 3rd Party Newcomer
Franchise: Bomberman
My Level of Want
Poor, poor, Bomberman. I'd personally love to see Bomberman get in somehow but I can never really consider him all too likely
Estimated Chance
The big problem being mostly it's Konami who owns him. Who already has Solid Snake with his own fans begging for his return. Right now Nintendo and Konami's relationship is kind of a mess. And it'd take a Miracle for Bomberman to find his way in Smash. Especially when characters like Rayman have much more possibility at the moment.
Amy Rose
Type of Character: 3rd Party Newcomer
Franchise: Sonic the Hedgehog
My Level of Want
Er, I don't actually hate Amy... but before Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman? No. The only way Amy gets playable in Smash is if this is a bizarro universe where Sega won the console war and they have their own Super Smash Bros. or if Nintendo buys out Sega and gives themselves free reign to include almost as many Sonic characters as they have Mario ones.
Estimated Chance
Just isn't happening. In the competition for a 2nd Sonic rep, Amy falls behind way short of the three I mentioned. It's even arguable that Shadow would deserve a spot in Smash before Amy as much as it would amuse me to see that a total of four Sonic characters got in before the rather overrated Shadow just to see the Shadow fanboy reactions.
Dr. Wily
Type of Character: 3rd Party Newcomer
Franchise: Mega Man
My Level of Want
I assume Wily's in a similar situation as Eggman. In terms of iconic status, Wily probably would be 2nd to Mega Man being the Main villain. But there's characters that are easier to make off that are side characters to Mega Man that are also pretty popular. Just replace Tails and/or Knuckles with Proto Man and Shadow with Bass and/or Zero and you got pretty much the same kinda situation in terms if a 2nd Mega Man rep was possible. I personally wouldn't mind Wily, but I'd like to see Sonic get another rep before Mega Man does. Sonic's been in the franchise for one game longer, they should get the first nod for a 2nd rep if they can.
Estimated Chance
Again low, as I basically said I think Megaman fans should wait and see if Sonic gets a 2nd rep so at least it becomes aware that it's possible for 3rd Parties to have more then one rep. Otherwise there's just no way Wily becomes the first already represented 3rd Party character.
