United States Presidential Election, 2012

Scarecrow von Steuben said:
Brock said:
I support turning unproductive members of society away from health care. Lazy bums. :posh:

You.. WHAT?

How *bleep*ing heartless do you have to be to want to leave people on the streets to die because they can't get a *bleep*ing job? Are you *bleep* crazy? Or are you just an idiot? Or perhaps both?

EVERYONE deserves healthcare. When you graduate from college, I honestly hope that you can't find a job- making you a nonproductive member of society, and then you can have a taste of the medicine you're so keen to force down others' throats. You can go straight to hell if you honestly think it's the fault of the people for being laid off and unable to find a job in this *bleep*ty economy.

I cannot understand how utterly selfish one would have to be to want to let people die because they can't find a job. "Oh, but it's okay, they're not helping society"- who gives a *bleep*? They're still people!

I am flabbergasted.
I doubt he was serious.
 
Lord Ghirahim said:
You know, oddly enough, several nationalized healthcare systems already have the ability to do that. Any system where healthcare is managed by the government based off who "deserves" healthcare seems eerily similar to the things that happened in Nazi Germany...

Fantastic job falling to Godwin's law.

Scarecrow von Steuben said:
Brock said:
I support turning unproductive members of society away from health care. Lazy bums. :posh:

You.. WHAT?

How *bleep*ing heartless do you have to be to want to leave people on the streets to die because they can't get a *bleep*ing job? Are you *bleep* crazy? Or are you just an idiot? Or perhaps both?

EVERYONE deserves healthcare. When you graduate from college, I honestly hope that you can't find a job- making you a nonproductive member of society, and then you can have a taste of the medicine you're so keen to force down others' throats. You can go straight to hell if you honestly think it's the fault of the people for being laid off and unable to find a job in this *bleep*ty economy.

I cannot understand how utterly selfish one would have to be to want to let people die because they can't find a job. "Oh, but it's okay, they're not helping society"- who gives a *bleep*? They're still people!

I am flabbergasted.

Beyond the fact that you just completely missed the sarcasm in Brock's post, you need to chill the fuck out. If Brock was serious with his comment, you could've attempted to persuade him on the matter with some facts or points or something, rather than a slurry of angsty flaming and swearing and melodramatic statements.



On topic now. I haven't paid any attention to this stuff at all, mainly due to classes being higher on my priority list. I haven't even been able to watch Stewert or Colbert ;~; Is there, uhhhh, anyone/thing that I can see that will explain most of the details in perhaps the most unbiased manner possible? Perhaps some link to the candidates with all of their opinions listed in bullet form or something?
 
Scarecrow von Steuben said:
When you graduate from college, I honestly hope that you can't find a job- making you a nonproductive member of society, and then you can have a taste of the medicine you're so keen to force down others' throats.
Or lack thereof.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Lord Ghirahim said:
You know, oddly enough, several nationalized healthcare systems already have the ability to do that. Any system where healthcare is managed by the government based off who "deserves" healthcare seems eerily similar to the things that happened in Nazi Germany...

Fantastic job falling to Godwin's law.
Godwin's law isn't really relevant here though; if you find an issue with the content of my argument, do tell please.
 
Brock said:
I support turning unproductive members of society away from health care. Lazy bums. :posh:
Although it would be nice to have healthcare, the downsides include an even larger federal government and long waits for treatment, so I agree but for completely different reasons.

(No I don't care that it was sarcastic I'm treating it as if it was real because it's a good point that we should debate)
 
Lord Ghirahim said:
Hypnotoad said:
Lord Ghirahim said:
You know, oddly enough, several nationalized healthcare systems already have the ability to do that. Any system where healthcare is managed by the government based off who "deserves" healthcare seems eerily similar to the things that happened in Nazi Germany...

Fantastic job falling to Godwin's law.
Godwin's law isn't really relevant here though; if you find an issue with the content of my argument, do tell please.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." Doesn't matter what context it's in, you made a comparison involving Nazi Germany. It doesn't have to be relevant to anything; Nazis or Hitler simply needs to be involved in a comparison.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Lord Ghirahim said:
Hypnotoad said:
Lord Ghirahim said:
You know, oddly enough, several nationalized healthcare systems already have the ability to do that. Any system where healthcare is managed by the government based off who "deserves" healthcare seems eerily similar to the things that happened in Nazi Germany...

Fantastic job falling to Godwin's law.
Godwin's law isn't really relevant here though; if you find an issue with the content of my argument, do tell please.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." Doesn't matter what context it's in, you made a comparison involving Nazi Germany. It doesn't have to be relevant to anything; Nazis or Hitler simply needs to be involved in a comparison.
It still doesn't do anything to the validity of my argument, so I'm assuming from now on that you aren't arguing against my argument, just pointing out that I fulfilled Godwin's law.
 
The thing is that a lot of people actually believe that, so you can't exactly blame me for taking it seriously- especially since I know nothing about Brock and that we have users who believe crazier things here- Marwikidor, anyone?


carcinoGeneticist said:
Scarecrow von Steuben said:
taking obvious sarcasm seriously

ha ha ha

How was it even remotely obvious? I've heard that exact argument that Brock used sarcastically coming from politicians who use it seriously.