Pokemon X and Pokemon Y

MnSG said:
GalacticPetey said:
Xerneas said:
Well, anything with Quiver Dance, and basically any Bug-type move is just powerful...

Speaking of which, I wonder what new moves they'll introduce this generation. We could use a few new moves in some typings...
A Grass type equivalent of Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Surf, and Flamethrower.

Surf affects more than one target in a double battle and triple battle, however, making it less powerful than normal when damaging multiple targets, along with being blocked by Wide Guard. All the other mentioned attacks are single target attacks, which Wide Guard can not block.
What I meant was an elemental special move with around that base power.
 
Panne said:
give it a recoil that takes half the hp.

1/2 of the damage as recoil seems more suited for attacks that are based on Head Smash, which has a whopping 150 base power. An Ice-type version of Double-Edge is just fine with delivering 1/3 of the damage as recoil to the user.
 
Isn't Icicle Crash reasonably powerful? I can't remember.
 
Purple Yoshi said:
Isn't Icicle Crash reasonably powerful? I can't remember.

Icicle Crash is stronger by 10 points, but it's less accurate than Ice Punch, and is not widely distributed as Ice Punch either.

Also, Avalanche isn't all that good either, since it goes after Focus Punch, and requires your Pokemon to take damage from its target for the attack's power to be doubled.
 
GalacticPetey said:
Purple Yoshi said:
Isn't Icicle Crash reasonably powerful? I can't remember.
It has poor distribution and a 10% chance to miss. It has 85 base power.

Ah, OK.

So, moves that need 120 base power:

Ice
Dark
Rock (stone edge is way too inaccurate)
Steel (but no one ever uses steel STAB except Bullet Punch)
Ghost
Psychic

OK, there's a lot.
 
GalacticPetey said:
CoroCoro confirmed it. It's a Mewtwo form and not a new pokemon.

Goddamn it.
 
GalacticPetey said:
CoroCoro confirmed it. It's a Mewtwo form and not a new pokemon.

Now I officially hate the Pokemon even more