Subspace Emissary Plotholes

[Xiahou Ba]

In this topic, we'll discuss about some Subspace Plotholes. Some of these just leave me baffled as to why there is no explanation to some events that occurred. I'd share some of these:

1. How did Tabuu steal the Halberd? It simply appeared after Mario and Kirby battled each other.
2. Why did Tabuu try to control the world? Where is his motivation?
3. Why did Rayquaza attack Fox and Diddy?
4. Why were Mario and Luigi separate? They are usually seen together when they are adventuring yet they are in very distant lands. Their relationship is never shown in the whole story.
5. Some of the unlockable characters' places are in really bizarre locations. An example of the Pleiades and the Lylat Cruise stage appearing in The Cave
6. Why did Kirby have a shorter duration to recover when a Dedede badge is attached to him?
7. How did Bowser, Ganondorf, Wario, and King Dedede even begin working in the dark side?
8. Where did Sonic come from? He just appears spontaneously.
9. In the scene with the giant canon, where did the good guys obtain their vehicles from?
10. In one scene, Pit can fly, but in another, Pit suddenly can't.
11. According to the Shadow Bug trophy, Mr. Game & Watch is filled with the dark stuff. Why him?
12. Why did Kirby suddenly abandon the princess in one scene?

I would like to discuss these and perhaps have some more plot holes I haven't covered yet "explained".

 

[GalacticPetey]

1. It was in an unused backstory
2. Tabuu was power hungry
3. They invaded his turf
4. I don't know
5. Subspace is a crazy place. Locations can change
6. Maybe it had something to do with his stomach
7. Dedede was good guy the whole time. The others probably wanted revenge on their enemies.
8. He was put in the game last minute be developers.
9. I don't know
10. He didn't want to leave Mario behind
11. Plot device
12. He sensed Dedede

 

[Dr. Javelin]

In this topic, we'll discuss about some Subspace Plotholes. Some of these just leave me baffled as to why there is no explanation to some events that occurred. I'd share some of these:

1. How did Tabuu steal the Halberd? It simply appeared after Mario and Kirby battled each other.

Before the story or something, Meta Knight was fighting off Tabuu when King Dedede attacked at the same time which made him lose.

2. Why did Tabuu try to control the world? Where is his motivation?

he needed a plot for his latest fanfic release

3. Why did Rayquaza attack Fox and Diddy?

Why does Raquaza fight you when you meet him at the tower instead of running away? Because he feels like it.

4. Why were Mario and Luigi separate? They are usually seen together when they are adventuring yet they are in very distant lands. Their relationship is never shown in the whole story.

Mario was at the stadium battling but Luigi missed his plane and had to walk the whole way there.

5. Some of the unlockable characters' places are in really bizarre locations. An example of the Pleiades and the Lylat Cruise stage appearing in The Cave

uh what

restate the question please

6. Why did Kirby have a shorter duration to recover when a Dedede badge is attached to him?

Shorter? I thought he recovered after the others.

It's probably due to his digestion rate or something.

7. How did Bowser, Ganondorf, Wario, and King Dedede even begin working in the dark side?

Dedede was actually on the good side and saved everyone with his previously created Dedede brooches.

As for the others, Ganondorf wanted to take over the power Master Hand had, Bowser was in it to beat Mario and get Peach, and Wario was just bored.

8. Where did Sonic come from? He just appears spontaneously.

SonicMario wished him into being by sheer willpower.

9. In the scene with the giant canon, where did the good guys obtain their vehicles from?
They had them all along but hadn't used them yet.

10. In one scene, Pit can fly, but in another, Pit suddenly can't.

He didn't fly in that part because he knew Ancient Minister would fry his wings like he did to Meta Knight in another scene.

11. According to the Shadow Bug trophy, Mr. Game & Watch is filled with the dark stuff. Why him?

He's two-dimensional and monochromatic.

12. Why did Kirby suddenly abandon the princess in one scene?

He's lame.

 

[Magikrazy]

1. This was explained in a scene that was cut.
7. King Dedede never was on the evil side. To answer your question, after Tabuu brainwashed the Master Hand with his Chains, he gave the dark cannons to Boswer, Ganondorf, and Wario.
8. Many speculate that when the giant cannon shot into the distance, that's where Sonic was.
12. He saw Bowser, and decided that it's every puffball for himself.

Dammit ninja'd.

 

[Xiahou Ba]

1. It was in an unused backstory
2. Tabuu was power hungry
3. They invaded his turf
4. I don't know
5. Subspace is a crazy place. Locations can change
6. Maybe it had something to do with his stomach
7. Dedede was good guy the whole time. The others probably wanted revenge on their enemies.
8. He was put in the game last minute be developers.
9. I don't know
10. He didn't want to leave Mario behind
11. Plot device
12. He sensed Dedede

1. I heard that the scene got removed. Shameful, it could have covered up that plothole
2. Ok, so he is a mildly evil character with no motivation. Yeah.
3. Rayquaza is underwater, how could they invande its turf? Also, another plot hole: Rayquaza is a sky Pokemon, what was it doing underwater?
4. No answer on that since you don't know, thus it truly is a plothole
5. The world is crazy ONLY in the Great Maze. Everywhere else seems like a perfectly normal place.
6. I don't know either. I wish someone could give a thorough explanation on why Kirby got a shorter duration of being a trophy.
7. That could be true
8. I knew I would get an answer like that. We're talking about game story terms, not if the developers did a last on addition. So do you know how in the world Sonic entered the Subspace world?
9. A true plothole.....
10. But I would fathom Pit would leave Mario behind if it meant saving the world. And besides, he was an inch close to the Subspace Bomb the Ancient Minister was carrying.
11. Maybe
12. Doesn't explain why Kirby couldn't take the princesses with him. And besides, King Dedede is nowhere to be seen

 

[Dr. Javelin]

reply to mine please

even the not so serious ones

 

[Gumball Machine]

1. There was supposed to be a scene to show Meta Knight being attacked by both Dedede and the Subspace Army. Meta Knight couldn't handle two threats at once, so he had to abandon ship. Dedede then somehow heard about Tabuu's plan and decided to make the badges as an emergency back-up plan. Dedede may or may not have been a member of the Subspace Army before hearing of Tabuu's plan.

2. He's a villain.

3. Rayquaza was probably just territorial or really cranky.

7. They're villains and Tabuu was controlling Master Hand, so "Master Hand", probably convinced them to join them and promised their dreams of world domination and the defeat of their heroic arch enemies.

8. When Bowser and Ganondorf were testing the Subspace Gunship, they randomly fire a laser and it produces another spherical entrance to Subspace. Its possible Sonic was in the location that got hit by the laser. Alternatively, Eggman was an unseen member of the Subspace Army and was keeping Soinc busy. Sonic defeated Eggman and either demanded to be sent into Subspace to help the other heroes, or Eggman had a device that could send him to Subspace.

9. They already had the Meta Knight, Falcon, Fox, and Falco's ships. The only ones that really came out of nowhere were Samus' ship and Kirby's Dragoon. Olimar's Rocket was actually on the Isle of Ancients since his ship can be seen in the background, so the real question is how did Olimar get his ship back when the isle was sucked into Subspace?

10. The first time he fell from a high altitude, his own level, Skyworld. Regarding when he couldn't fly, I'm guessing you mean the part where he uses Mario as a spring. Well, he was on the ground. Pit might only have the ability to fly if he jumps from a high enough altitude.

11. Mr. Game and Watch doesn't really have a backstory since his creator sadly passed away. This was Brawl's developers using their creativity.

 

[Kong Rong]

11. Mr. Game and Watch doesn't really have a backstory since his creator sadly passed away. This was Brawl's developers using their creativity.

Um Mr. Game & Watch didn't debut until 1997 a year after Gunpei Yokoi left Nintendo

 

[Xiahou Ba]

In this topic, we'll discuss about some Subspace Plotholes. Some of these just leave me baffled as to why there is no explanation to some events that occurred. I'd share some of these:

1. How did Tabuu steal the Halberd? It simply appeared after Mario and Kirby battled each other.

Before the story or something, Meta Knight was fighting off Tabuu when King Dedede attacked at the same time which made him lose.

2. Why did Tabuu try to control the world? Where is his motivation?

he needed a plot for his latest fanfic release

3. Why did Rayquaza attack Fox and Diddy?

Why does Raquaza fight you when you meet him at the tower instead of running away? Because he feels like it.

4. Why were Mario and Luigi separate? They are usually seen together when they are adventuring yet they are in very distant lands. Their relationship is never shown in the whole story.

Mario was at the stadium battling but Luigi missed his plane and had to walk the whole way there.

5. Some of the unlockable characters' places are in really bizarre locations. An example of the Pleiades and the Lylat Cruise stage appearing in The Cave

uh what

restate the question please

6. Why did Kirby have a shorter duration to recover when a Dedede badge is attached to him?

Shorter? I thought he recovered after the others.

It's probably due to his digestion rate or something.

7. How did Bowser, Ganondorf, Wario, and King Dedede even begin working in the dark side?

Dedede was actually on the good side and saved everyone with his previously created Dedede brooches.

As for the others, Ganondorf wanted to take over the power Master Hand had, Bowser was in it to beat Mario and get Peach, and Wario was just bored.

8. Where did Sonic come from? He just appears spontaneously.

SonicMario wished him into being by sheer willpower.

9. In the scene with the giant canon, where did the good guys obtain their vehicles from?
They had them all along but hadn't used them yet.

10. In one scene, Pit can fly, but in another, Pit suddenly can't.

He didn't fly in that part because he knew Ancient Minister would fry his wings like he did to Meta Knight in another scene.

11. According to the Shadow Bug trophy, Mr. Game & Watch is filled with the dark stuff. Why him?

He's two-dimensional and monochromatic.

12. Why did Kirby suddenly abandon the princess in one scene?

He's lame.

1. Again, that scene should have been left in. It would have covered up that plothole.
2. What a scoop!
3. Rayquaza doesn't immediately fight you. Don't you have to walk and talk to it before it can fight you? And still, what is it doing in the water when it should be in the sky?
4. Hm, that sounds reasonable, even though it's pretty silly.
5. I meant how in the world Lylat Cruise could be in The Cave. There is a door in The Cave that let you to a place w