Why DK

When I first came here I was happy to see that this site covered not only mario but also DK characters. However... why do we do DK characters? I know that the series are closely entertwined and i know that Diddy and Dixie have appeared in some mario games. But some of them (kiddy kong for example) have never appeared in a mario game. If we are going to do dk and mario why not do something else to? why not turn this site into a wiki for videogames in general?
 

Sir Grodus

King Bowser
Retired Wiki Staff
I've kinda wondered that myself, why does the wiki cover all Donkey Kong characters and species even though some of them have not appeared in a Mario game? I've never got straight answer, but that doesn't stop me from making DK articles.
 

porplemontage

Forum Administrator
Wiki Proprietor
I really don't know. But I like the idea of covering other Nintendo series more in-depth if they've related to Mario. And we know the Donkey Kong and Mario universes are one in the same, so it makes some sense to get into the games a little bit more. I mean, the first ever Mario game was really a Donkey Kong game. I guess we just went from there.

Maybe we could eventually cover some of the series appearing in Super Smash Bros. more.
 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
Son of Suns can probably answer this, about the "extended Marioverse". It should be a secondary focus.
 

Paper Jorge

who? am? I?
So someday we're going to add Banjo characters in the Wiki...right :?: :?: :?:
 

Sir Grodus

King Bowser
Retired Wiki Staff
They'll probably be added, I dunno about characters from the-yet-to-be released Banjo Threeie/Banjo Kazooie 3 though since its on the XBOX 360, hiss, boo, hiss.
 

Knife

Searching for adventure
Retired Wiki Staff
maybe ill add some banjo character as my annoying cousin has a 360 and can probably feed us some info.

Is it alright to make articles for the xbox 360 banjo game because our wiki say nothing about limiting our articles to nintendo games
 
I dont think it would be good to be limited to nintendo. I still remember looking all over the net for a complete list of videogame characters and not being able to find one.
 

Sir Grodus

King Bowser
Retired Wiki Staff
Well, he did appear in Diddy Kong Racing (minus Kazooie but, she was mentioned in the games manual) so, I guess that means he may be a part of the extended Marioverse.
 

Paper Jorge

who? am? I?
Sir Grodus said:
Well, he did appear in Diddy Kong Racing (minus Kazooie but, she was mentioned in the games manual) so, I guess that means he may be a part of the extended Marioverse.
Plus Son of Suns said he wanted Banjo (and Conker) characters in the Wiki. Well Steve?
 

porplemontage

Forum Administrator
Wiki Proprietor
Wow, everyone must relate to the Marioverse in some shape or form. I don't mind covering these games. Maybe we should have a template or something:

The {{{1}}} discussed in this article relates to the [[Extended Marioverse]], meaning that while it doesn't directly relate to the Mario series, it is still relevant to the wiki.
Or something. And {{{1}}} could be game, character, item, place, whatever.
 

Son_of_Suns

Cheep Cheep
Retired Wiki Staff
As I have argued before, Donkey Kong is a part of the Extended Marioverse. The DK series is a spin-off of the traditional Marioverse and as such deserves a place in the wiki, but only of secondary importance, as it is seperated by one "degree". The majority of our work should go towards completeing the traditional Marioverse (i.e. games where Mario is the star). Other spin-off series include the Wario and Yoshi series. A lot of enemies and species in those series don't appear in the traditional Mario games, but we consider those spin-off franchises a part of the Marioverse nonetheless. They are spin-offs just like the DK series and thus classify as of secondary importance (again, one degree of seperation). However, the DK series has also spun into the Banjo and Conker series under Rare's direction. Again, a spin-off is a part of the same universe where it came from. In this case, Conker and Banjo are a part of the DKverse. However, the DKverse is part of the greater Marioverse. As such, Banjo and Conker are a part of a very extended Marioverse. However, since they are the spin-offs of a spin-off, they are only of tertiary importance to the wiki (this time, two whole degrees of seperation instead of one). That means they don't have as much importance as traditional Mario games or the DK, Wario, and Yoshi sub-series. They are a part of the Marioverse, but not as important.

Super Smash Bros., on the other hand, is a crossover. That means it too is a part of the extended Marioverse, but only from the perspective of the Marioverse. That means while Princess Zelda is a part of the Marioverse, all that is "known" about her is her role in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Information from the Legend of Zelda franchise is not of any importance to the Marioverse. Only her Super Smash Bros. appearance is. See the Princess_Zelda talk page for more information. Again, because the Super Smash Bros. series is one degree of seperation from the traditional Marioverse, it is of secondary importance to this wiki. The Legend of Zelda series is not a spin-off or a crossover of the Marioverse, and thus has absolutely no importance to this wiki. We could expand and start creating articles about the various items and places in the Super Smash Bros. series (including items and places from other series that appear in Super Smash Bros.). Of course, this would be of secondary importance.

I believe any information from the Banjo and Conker series as gained from the XBox is completely valid. Just because it isn't Nintendo, doesn't mean it's not valid. I mean, look at how many great Mario games are being developed by third-parties (such as the Mario & Luigi series).

Lastly, I think it would be foolish to include series that are independent of the Marioverse and can only be conneceted via the cross-over Super Smash Bros. Pokemon and the Legend of Zelda are independent of the Marioverse. They emerged from different sources and are in no way related to the Marioverse (i.e. they are no spin-offs, but their own independent franchise). They are unrelated and have no place in a wiki about Mario. I would also be deeply saddened to see this wiki transformed into a general video game wiki. I liked that the Super Mario Wiki focused on Mario. That allows us to get a lot more done. If this wiki was open to all Nintendo or all video game franchises, we would be bogged down in too much information. We could never get anything remotely complete. Plus, there are already two Nintendo Wikis out there, and many more video game wikis. The Super Mario Wiki is unique in that it is the only wiki out there that focuses on the Marioverse in all its forms.
 
Maybe your right... it would be a lot of work.
 
Maybe your right... that would be a lot of work. :|
 

Phoenix Rider

Luma
Retired Wiki Staff
Besides, there's already a Zelda Wiki.

Their layout's a bit nicer than ours. I especially like their logo.

OK, enough about the Zelda Wiki. :|

But I have a question: Why aren't we a .org?
 

porplemontage

Forum Administrator
Wiki Proprietor
Monty Mole said:
But I have a question: Why aren't we a .org?
Well I was like "How about a Mario wiki? What should the domain be? Mariowiki.com, that works." So who knows.
 
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