The Official SBR-B Brawl Tier List v2.0

ChaosNinji

Shine Sprite
For refrence purposes, since barely anyone here goes to SmashBoards. Any TR4Q posts will be deleted on sight. Out of 15 points, these are how characters stacked up.

SS Tier

Meta Knight 15.00


S Tier

Snake 13.91


A Tier

Falco 13.03


King Dedede 12.94


Mr. Game & Watch 12.50


Marth 12.09


Diddy Kong 11.94


B Tier

Wario 11.47


R.O.B. 11.38


Lucario 10.94


Olimar 10.94


C Tier

Pikachu 10.34


Kirby 10.16


Donkey Kong 10.06


Ice Climbers 9.59


D Tier

Zero Suit Samus 8.88


Toon Link 8.47


Pit 8.44


Peach 8.16


Wolf 7.91


E Tier

Luigi 7.41


Zelda 7.03


Bowser 6.91


Fox 6.66


Sheik 6.44


Ike 5.91


F Tier

Mario 4.56


Lucas 4.50


Ness 4.50


Samus 4.41


Sonic 4.16


Pokémon Trainer 3.94


Yoshi 3.66


G Tier

Link 2.28


Jigglypuff 2.03


Ganondorf 1.88


Captain Falcon 1.63




Really, I'm most surprised that Marth is higher than R.O.B. and Wario, Diddy got raised as high as he did (4 spots!), and that R.O.B. was moved down 3 spots.
 

ChaosNinji

Shine Sprite
Free Loader said:
Gregory House said:
So, is anyone going actually comment on it? >_>
What is there to say? :| If I thought some characters belonged somewhere else on the list, nothing would happen, and you said if we think the game is actually a fun game about skill, we get our posts deleted.
Expressing an opinion on the list doesn't mean that I'll delete your post. Saying something stupid like TR4Q will.
 

crystalking

King Bowser
shouldn't there be two tiers? 1-1 match tier and free for all tier? because snake is good for free for all, but i havn't seen a good 1-1 snake
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Retired Wiki Staff
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
 

ChaosNinji

Shine Sprite
Smiddle said:
SS? Meta-Knight's a nazi now?
I see what you did there.

Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.

crystalking said:
shouldn't there be two tiers? 1-1 match tier and free for all tier? because snake is good for free for all, but i havn't seen a good 1-1 snake
Have you ever seen a FFA tournament? They don't exsist. FFAs are WAY too random.

I play pros quite a bit, and Snake is broken with his running Up-Smash and killer tilts.
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Retired Wiki Staff
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
 

ChaosNinji

Shine Sprite
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss. Side-B is slow to start, and can be shielded easily. It's also one of his only killing moves besides up-Smash. Any standard A is good for cornering enemies, but Kirby's can be rolled out of just like anyone else. Standard A isn't overly useful unless you're Ike. 5 jumps is pretty awesome, but that won't stop him from being KO'd at obscenely low damage %s to the side and upwards. It really only helps out against spikes. His Down-B can be easily dodge rolled out of considering how predictable it is (if they're above you, they're either going to do Down-B or Down-Air; both can dodged easily, so there's no reason why you wouldn't roll). Couple all of these problems with his low priority and his light weight, and you have a mediocre character. Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
 

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Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
 

Smiddle

Power Star
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
First of all, Kirby's up-B is a stall-n-fall move. All stalls-n-falls are instant deaths if missed.

What's wrong with Captain Falcon? D0000000d...
 

ChaosNinji

Shine Sprite
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
No, they aren't. Take G&W's for example. If you miss the initial ledge grab, you can still float back on the stage.

Captain Falcon has no useful moves, like, at all besides Up-Smash. He constantly ranks in last place at tournaments, and has suck match-ups.
 

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Beowulf said:
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
No, they aren't. Take G&W's for example. If you miss the initial ledge grab, you can still float back on the stage.

Captain Falcon has no useful moves, like, at all besides Up-Smash. He constantly ranks in last place at tournaments, and has suck match-ups.
W/e, Im pretty good with him. I usually fail at ledge grabs cause I end up facing the wrong way when I get back up there. Useless Wii Remote control pad.
 

Smiddle

Power Star
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
No, they aren't. Take G&W's for example. If you miss the initial ledge grab, you can still float back on the stage.

Captain Falcon has no useful moves, like, at all besides Up-Smash. He constantly ranks in last place at tournaments, and has suck match-ups.
W/e, Im pretty good with him. I usually fail at ledge grabs cause I end up facing the wrong way when I get back up there. Useless Wii Remote control pad.
Doesn't Br0l allow you to grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing?
 

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Smiddle said:
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Toadbert101 said:
Beowulf said:
Stooben Rooben said:
James Wilson said:
Stooben Rooben said:
Kirby should be a high A at the least.
Kirby's really lightweight and a bit predictable. Copying's cool and all, but most players usually just spam that move, so he gets punished often.
His ability to copy is really weak in comparison to his up-B and side-B. Not to mention that those moves can do around 50% damage if you execute them really good. His standard A is perfect for cornering enemies and keeping them there, unless you have a character that can evade his fast punching. He has a really great recovery, and his down-B is perfect for dropping on unexpecting opposers and KO'ing them instantly. All in all, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game despite how easy he is to knock aside.
I completely disagree.

His up-B is really easy to dodge, and the aftershock can be refelected. It's not even an exteremely useful recovery move because it's an instant death if you miss.

Maybe he's not Captain Falcon bad, but he's nowhere near as good as you say.
All Up+B's are deaths if you miss, and the new Brawl characters really have that feature. Whats wrong with Capt Falcon?
No, they aren't. Take G&W's for example. If you miss the initial ledge grab, you can still float back on the stage.

Captain Falcon has no useful moves, like, at all besides Up-Smash. He constantly ranks in last place at tournaments, and has suck match-ups.
W/e, Im pretty good with him. I usually fail at ledge grabs cause I end up facing the wrong way when I get back up there. Useless Wii Remote control pad.
Doesn't Br0l allow you to grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing?
no. σ_σ
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Retired Wiki Staff
Smiddle said:
Toadbert101 said:
W/e, Im pretty good with him. I usually fail at ledge grabs cause I end up facing the wrong way when I get back up there. Useless Wii Remote control pad.
Doesn't Br0l allow you to grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing?
It always seemed that way to me.
 

Smiddle

Power Star
Stooben Rooben said:
Smiddle said:
Toadbert101 said:
W/e, Im pretty good with him. I usually fail at ledge grabs cause I end up facing the wrong way when I get back up there. Useless Wii Remote control pad.
Doesn't Br0l allow you to grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing?
It always seemed that way to me.
Same'd
 

crystalking

King Bowser
How is ness that low. He has one of the best throwing abilities in the game and he is amazing with arial combat. His bat can reflect objects which is very useful. he also isn't too predictible.
 

ShyGuy27

The Cardinal is dead -- long live The Cardinal!
crystalking said:
How is ness that low. He has one of the best throwing abilities in the game and he is amazing with arial combat. His bat can reflect objects which is very useful. he also isn't too predictible.
But have you ever actually tried to play as him? He's hard to control.
 
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