Same sex marriage

2257 said:
Mario Party Σ said:
Can't deny that the term "homophobe" carries its own weight, though. I think it's just better to point out the flaws in his argument rather than using the label.

if it's insulting to describe something as what it is

there's something wrong with the thing being described

not the description
Although I haven't seen a single legit argument from the side that opposes gay marriage, there are people who aren't as malicious and oppose gay marriage as decreed by their religion. I'm saying that, in this case, labeling them as a homophobe/bigot before pointing out the flaws in the argument still constitutes as ad homineum and it might encourage them to go on the defensive while the "on the fence" side sees us as attackers.

Of course, if the person doesn't actually consider the major flaws in his argument, then I'd call him a homophobe. Also, of course, if the person is more blatant and aggressive about it, call the person for the bigot/homophobe/dingwad he or she is.

And, of course, there are always people who try to pose as reasonable people (concern trolls, JAQing off, "I'm not prejudiced, but...", and others), but I'm giving Master Koopakid the benefit of doubt and assuming good intentions.

Derpl Zork said:
Well either way it doesn't matter what anyone thinks or whatever religious excuse you can come up with to mask your bigotry because it's been made legal and there's no changing it :birdo: :blooper: :bowser: It's just "marriage" now.
Yes, now, let's see what more countries will follow suit. Hopefully, it shouldn't be long.

Nozomi Toujou said:
i keep hearing that some states are considering outright banning marriage because of this like ummm what
"I can't be happy, so no one should be happy".
 
Nozomi Toujou said:
i keep hearing that some states are considering outright banning marriage because of this like ummm what

lel
 
Its funny because of how short-lived the celebration was before states started banning marriage altogether in effort to stop gay marriage.

And by funny i mean silly and childish.

But on the positive note:

Technically its now says in the law of every state for two people to marry, regardless of anything itself. That itself is an achievement (one that we already should have but i digress), and i'm personally celebrating. Even if this is just one step, might as well party, right?

Relevant:
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Unrelated by at the same time related, did you know that the government here in Sweden during the 1970ies used to think homosexuality was a disease, and then everyone reacted to that by taking sick leave from their jobs because 'they were feeling homosexual'? This made the government change their thoughts on the subject.
 
RandomYoshi said:
Unrelated by at the same time related, did you know that the government here in Sweden during the 1970ies used to think homosexuality was a disease, and then everyone reacted to that by taking sick leave from their jobs because 'they were feeling homosexual'? This made the government change their thoughts on the subject.

Ah, yes. Someone told me about that a while back, and its one of my favorite stories, is it really true?
 
I wouldn't be too surprised since homosexuality used to exist as a diagnostic label for mental diseases.
 
Kimberly Hart said:
RandomYoshi said:
Unrelated by at the same time related, did you know that the government here in Sweden during the 1970ies used to think homosexuality was a disease, and then everyone reacted to that by taking sick leave from their jobs because 'they were feeling homosexual'? This made the government change their thoughts on the subject.

Ah, yes. Someone told me about that a while back, and its one of my favorite stories, is it really true?
Dude, Sweden was super duper conservative up until the 1970ies. There were laws in check to assure nobody without the proper genes or grades could even reproduce.
 
RandomYoshi said:
Kimberly Hart said:
RandomYoshi said:
Unrelated by at the same time related, did you know that the government here in Sweden during the 1970ies used to think homosexuality was a disease, and then everyone reacted to that by taking sick leave from their jobs because 'they were feeling homosexual'? This made the government change their thoughts on the subject.

Ah, yes. Someone told me about that a while back, and its one of my favorite stories, is it really true?
Dude, Sweden was super duper conservative up until the 1970ies. There were laws in check to assure nobody without the proper genes or grades could even reproduce.
Damn! Thats crazy, i had no clue about that. >.>
 
Nozomi Toujou said:
i keep hearing that some states are considering outright banning marriage because of this like ummm what
What?
Source?