Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Crackin355]

Brawl was completely, 100%, able to be played competitively. Melee fans just didn't want to adjust for the most part, sure things played somewhat differently but there is a thing called adapting. Which I did, I honestly hated competitive play in Melee, it was tedious and got boring real fast.

it was able to be played competitively, but Melee and Brawl play differently and the metagames evolved into different things. Melee rewards offense, Brawl rewards defense. People who like Melee for its speed hate Brawl, that's natural because Brawl is a slower paced game. It's a simple difference in taste that stops Melee players from playing Brawl. They are both played very differently, if you try and say they aren't then I'm not going to listen to you because you're simply wrong. I'm not going to attempt to reason with a brick wall.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

BMB, you seriously need to find your chill. Every time I come into this thread, I see you immediately jumping on any slight criticism or personal grievance anyone has about Smash Bros. or Sakurai. It's ok, the games don't have to be perfect for you to enjoy them.

and I still find it quaint how people think they know more about Smash Bros. than GalacticPetey, because you totally don't.

I definitely don't think I know more about Smash than GP. If I come off that way, I'm sorry. But that doesn't mean that I have to like or agree with everything GP says about Smash, just because he knows more about it. BTW, I do do research on these sorts of things, so while I'm not that qualified to spur out things, it's not like I don't know a thing or two about Smash.

And maybe I have been a bit quick about the judgments about what people say about Sakurai, but I don't think it's right to take out their anger on some guy they don't even know instead of the game itself. Critic the game all you want for having shortcomings - but Smash 3DS definitely has a lot of them (and it's not like I haven't stated many of them already) - and decisions the development team made but it's really frustrating when they take out their anger on the person and literally say "fuck you" that made it for not making the game exactly how they want it.

Maybe you're just coming in at the wrong times, cause while I do whine a lot, it's not like every post I post in here is me complaining or throwing a counter-argument. :P

 

[supermariofan]

I think a better question is: What would Mewtwo sound like? Unless they're gonna be lazy and record his Melee voice

I wouldn't have a single bit of a problem if they did that, because I really liked that voice. Sure, it might be lazy of them but that would be a million times better than having him sound like a female like in his last movie. I would like some new voice acting, but sadly that can't come from his voice actor from Melee because he died.

Nic Cage as Mewtwo!
Or Robert Redford, he should've voiced him in the movie in fact

 

[DaKid]

Brawl was completely, 100%, able to be played competitively. Melee fans just didn't want to adjust for the most part, sure things played somewhat differently but there is a thing called adapting. Which I did, I honestly hated competitive play in Melee, it was tedious and got boring real fast.

it was able to be played competitively, but Melee and Brawl play differently and the metagames evolved into different things. Melee rewards offense, Brawl rewards defense. People who like Melee for its speed hate Brawl, that's natural because Brawl is a slower paced game. It's a simple difference in taste that stops Melee players from playing Brawl. They are both played very differently, if you try and say they aren't then I'm not going to listen to you because you're simply wrong. I'm not going to attempt to reason with a brick wall.

I clearly stated that they played differently. Please, tell me in what way was Brawl played only defensively? Because I played as offensively as I did in Melee.

 

[Crackin355]

Brawl was completely, 100%, able to be played competitively. Melee fans just didn't want to adjust for the most part, sure things played somewhat differently but there is a thing called adapting. Which I did, I honestly hated competitive play in Melee, it was tedious and got boring real fast.

it was able to be played competitively, but Melee and Brawl play differently and the metagames evolved into different things. Melee rewards offense, Brawl rewards defense. People who like Melee for its speed hate Brawl, that's natural because Brawl is a slower paced game. It's a simple difference in taste that stops Melee players from playing Brawl. They are both played very differently, if you try and say they aren't then I'm not going to listen to you because you're simply wrong. I'm not going to attempt to reason with a brick wall.

I clearly stated that they played differently. Please, tell me in what way was Brawl played only defensively? Because I played as offensively as I did in Melee.

You said that they play somewhat differently so I covered my bases before you decided to shit on me for 'not reading'. The first match in this should show you how top players play and how defensively you have to play. You may think they're being too defensive but ask yourself, how did they reach this point? By playing defensively as they are. It's easy enough to say you will be on the offense but actually pulling it off without being punished is incredibly difficult and a top player will not let you go unpunished unless they slip up somehow. M2K spent the first match walling out Nakat and Nakat spent it trying to bait M2K into a situation where he can land an infinite. Every hit counted, but the only character in this game that can sort of 'combo' is Meta Knight, Nakat had to play hit and run which is a defensive playstyle.

edit: Also I never said 'only defensively', I said it rewards defense. Even if you play offensively, I doubt you even take it even a fraction as seriously as the top players do.