Super Paper Mario: Too much hate?

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PokemonMaster

LETS START A NO AVATAR/SIG FAD.
I noticed a lot of people hate SPM. Sad, because it was a good game. Sure it had tons of flaws but it had tons of redeeming features.

The music is great, to bad nobody pays attention to it. And the villains are LIKEABLE.
For instance, Bowser in every game has nothing to explain his ambition. At least Count Bleck had a reason to destroy all worlds. (A rather sad reason.) Then here we have the plot. Amazing. I didn't expect the ending. And not to mention, the game has GOOD comedy. Sure there is no partners, but hey! They're major, but honestly most aren't the best characters I've seen. (Koops, KOPPER.)

Also the game is somewhat challenging. (And a jerk.)
The next few parts of my rant will have spoilers.)




Remember The Pit of 100 Trials? Hard already. (Unless you got Emergency Rationings) In this game they give you two. Jerks right? And The Flopside Pit of 100 Trials requires you to do it twice to actually gain anything besides Experience.
And guess what? They have an easiar/harder clone. Sammer Kingdom. Fight 100 Sammer Guys. (Who have the most comedic lines.)
And Bowser and Luigi are playable.

The flaws are that, some bosses are easy to beat. (Wracktail is easiar then Fracktail if you use Luigi and Peach.)
Curseyas. They're just pure annoying.
Some bosses are repetive and stuff.
The game starts slow.
The way of getting money is ridicously easy. (Amazy Dayzee card thing.)
Pixls are unintresting.
The game seems to have Gamecube quality. (Mario in TTYD and SPM look VERY simarlar.)
Not enough side quests. (Besides treasure.)
Wii Remote features are limited.

Anyways, I want you're opinion on SPM. Be fair though. Don't turn this into a flame war thread, 'K?
 
I like Super Paper Mario. I think it's a good game on it's own merits. It's just that it's own merits doesn't compare to the last two Paper Mario's level of quality.

It's not a bad game, but Paper Mario 64 and Thousand Year Door are definitely overall better games.
 
Guys SPM is like a different game to the first two.
 
My thoughts on Super Paper Mario?

Disappointing. What people don't seem to understand is that when you make a sequel, you strive to make it better, not worse. Super Paper Mario felt like a smack to the face. It was a platformer, not an RPG. The partners barely made a sound. The worlds lacked depth - they seemed nothing more than a few buildings with a flat backstory - actually, not even. Most of these places didn't even have a backstory, with the deepest part being "Squirp's mother is dead." Sure, there was the Timpani and Blumiere thing, but it was so basic and obvious who they were that it didn't even feel that exciting. Twist ending? What twist ending? You mean that Tuc- I mean Dimentio was working to take down Bleck all along? That was a sad attempt to bring out a secondary character. And it was so easy. The bosses put up virtually no challenge (I admit I had trouble on the flower boss when I played it, though.)

And don't get me started on Chapter 2.
 
Nabber said:
My thoughts on Super Paper Mario?

Disappointing. What people don't seem to understand is that when you make a sequel, you strive to make it better, not worse. Super Paper Mario felt like a smack to the face. It was a platformer, not an RPG. The partners barely made a sound. The worlds lacked depth - they seemed nothing more than a few buildings with a flat backstory - actually, not even. Most of these places didn't even have a backstory, with the deepest part being "Squirp's mother is dead." Sure, there was the Timpani and Blumiere thing, but it was so basic and obvious who they were that it didn't even feel that exciting. Twist ending? What twist ending? You mean that Tuc- I mean Dimentio was working to take down Bleck all along? That was a sad attempt to bring out a secondary character. And it was so easy. The bosses put up virtually no challenge (I admit I had trouble on the flower boss when I played it, though.)

And don't get me started on Chapter 2.
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The bosses where easy but I thought that this game had the best story the the entire series. I disagree with you totally here.
 
How in any way was the story good?

Also, TOO MANY CHARACTERS. Between four heroes and ten or so Pixls, plus Tippi... god.
 
Paper Mario and TTYD were much, much better games.

However I still think SPM is a good game as well.
 
Smasher said:
Paper Mario and TTYD were much, much better games.

However I still think SPM is a good game as well.
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^This.
 
not really