Proposed Wisconsin bill equates single parenting to child abuse

Dr. Javelin said:
It's not discrimination if they are refusing to offer abortions to anyone, including people who don't want abortions.

Is it discriminating against smokers if a general store refuses to sell cigarettes? No.
No because that's not a constitutionally protected right you could make cigarettes illegal just like you can make Alcohol illegal but you can't make abortion illegal and therefore you are refusing to give someone a constitutionally protected right therefore you are violating the constitution of the United States (and if you say that's not the case I refer you to the refusal to give Wiccans knives while they are in jail and ask you if that is a violation of their religious right since knives are important to the wiccan faith and wiccan rituals and if you fail to understand well then i'm gonna call you a giant hypocrite)
 
Crazy Jane said:
Dr. Javelin said:
It's not discrimination if they are refusing to offer abortions to anyone, including people who don't want abortions.

Is it discriminating against smokers if a general store refuses to sell cigarettes? No.
No because that's not a constitutionally protected right you could make cigarettes illegal just like you can make Alcohol illegal but you can't make abortion illegal and therefore you are refusing to give someone a constitutionally protected right therefore you are violating the constitution of the United States
Okay, fine. Replace "cigarettes" with guns, since guns are a constitutionally protected right under the 2nd Amendment, which is certainly more powerful than whatever court case you are referencing.

Actually, I'll do it for you:

Is it discriminating against gun owners if a outdoorsman store (like Bass Pro Shops) decides not to sell guns?
Crazy Jane said:
(and if you say that's not the case I refer you to the refusal to give Wiccans knives while they are in jail and ask you if that is a violation of their religious right since knives are important to the wiccan faith and wiccan rituals and if you fail to understand well then i'm gonna call you a giant hypocrite)
okay, let's start a religion of pyromania

that way i should be allowed to have a flamethrower in prison, right

EDIT: also
Crocodile Dippy said:
I personally wouldn't mind if cigarettes were made illegal !!
I think that people have the right to them. That doesn't say it's a good idea.
 
Stay classy, bro. The knives are never used for actual physical cutting in Wiccan traditions; more often than not they're just used for symbolic purposes.

Our beloved Stooben Rooben is Wiccan, so I'd thank you not to imply that faith is inherently violent.
 
Crocodile Dippy said:
Stay classy, bro. The knives are never used for actual physical cutting in Wiccan traditions; more often than not they're just used for symbolic purposes.

Our beloved Stooben Rooben is Wiccan, so I'd thank you not to imply that faith is inherently violent.
No shit is Stooben really a Wiccan?
Dr. Javelin said:
Crazy Jane said:
Dr. Javelin said:
It's not discrimination if they are refusing to offer abortions to anyone, including people who don't want abortions.

Is it discriminating against smokers if a general store refuses to sell cigarettes? No.
No because that's not a constitutionally protected right you could make cigarettes illegal just like you can make Alcohol illegal but you can't make abortion illegal and therefore you are refusing to give someone a constitutionally protected right therefore you are violating the constitution of the United States
Okay, fine. Replace "cigarettes" with guns, since guns are a constitutionally protected right under the 2nd Amendment, which is certainly more powerful than whatever court case you are referencing.

Actually, I'll do it for you:

Is it discriminating against gun owners if a outdoorsman store (like Bass Pro Shops) decides not to sell guns?
Crazy Jane said:
(and if you say that's not the case I refer you to the refusal to give Wiccans knives while they are in jail and ask you if that is a violation of their religious right since knives are important to the wiccan faith and wiccan rituals and if you fail to understand well then i'm gonna call you a giant hypocrite)
okay, let's start a religion of pyromania

that way i should be allowed to have a flamethrower in prison, right
No it's not where is the constitutional mandate that states that all outdoorsman stores have to sell guns just because you have the right to bear arms doesn't mean that all outdoorsman stores have to sell guns. And no it's being hypocritical doctors have a mandate to preform certain things mainly all legal things and if you don't want to give someone there legal right of having an abortion (when you could preform one) then get the fuck out of the profession if your not willing to do what it takes.

And as long as you have these things
A: Federal Recognition
B: An actual reason for needing flamethrowers
Then yes you should be allowed to have flamethrowers (although this is yet another classic example of taking something to it's extreme)
 
Most faiths that have en emphasis on ritualistic fire just light candles with matches or lighters, anyway. Flamethrowers is really taking it to the extreme, but it'd give them a good excuse to brandish a fire axe and flare gun, and mumble every line of the ritual passage.

also yes Stooben is Wiccan. Ask him yourself if you want confirmation.
 
Crocodile Dippy said:
Stay classy, bro. The knives are never used for actual physical cutting in Wiccan traditions; more often than not they're just used for symbolic purposes.

Our beloved Stooben Rooben is Wiccan, so I'd thank you not to imply that faith is inherently violent.
I wasn't saying anything against the Wiccans at all, merely saying that giving knives to felons while they're in prison is a bad idea. I have no problem at all with Wiccans. I have a problem with using "religous freedom" as an excuse to endanger the lives of prison guards.
Crazy Jane said:
No it's not where is the constitutional mandate that states that all outdoorsman stores have to sell guns just because you have the right to bear arms doesn't mean that all outdoorsman stores have to sell guns. And no it's being hypocritical doctors have a mandate to preform certain things mainly all legal things
Okay, this is where I disregard any chance of believing you and ask you for proof, because I highly doubt doctors have been ordered by the Constitution to do certain things.

Because honestly, that's a complete violation of their rights.
 
Well the Constitution gives woman the right to an abortion you work in a hospital therefore you should have to give the woman an abortion (of course if there is someone else who could do it then it's fine if you bow out for religious purposes but if your like to only on call person then you should have to since it's your job)

Also cool I finally know a Wiccan
 
Crazy Jane said:
Aha, so there is no such mandate.

Case in point.
Crazy Jane said:
(of course if there is someone else who could do it then it's fine if you bow out for religious purposes
There's likely an abortion clinic somewhere in that client's vicinity.
Crazy Jane said:
but if your like to only on call person then you should have to since it's your job)
So (WARNING, another comparison that is relevant but random), if it's my job to build roads, and the government tells me to build the road in such a way as to kill drivers with poor miles to gallon rates, then I should be forced to because it's my job?
 
Why would the Government want you to build that road and yes you should it's your job unless you want to get fired
(side note this conversation is going nowhere I suggest we get back to the original topic)
So guys I think we are all agree that this bill makes no sense