Who's the best president?

Pick your favorite president:

  • Ronald Reagan

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • Abraham Lincoln

    Votes: 10 30.3%

  • Bill Clinton

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • John F. Kennedy

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • George Washington

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Franklin Roosevelt

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • No opinion

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Theodore Roosevelt

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • Harry Truman

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • George W. Bush

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Thomas Jefferson

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • Jimmy Carter

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Dwight Eisenhower

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • George H. W. Bush

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • None

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Andrew Jackson

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Lyndon Johnson

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Richard Nixon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    33
*shudders*

Clinton why

why you ruin the economy

and also why did bush not fix it

(The real problem is that he got the blame, though - it was Clinton and the Democrats that relaxed bank loan requirements that led to the recession)
 
Dr. Javelin said:
*shudders*

Clinton why

why you ruin the economy

and also why did bush not fix it

(The real problem is that he got the blame, though - it was Clinton and the Democrats that relaxed bank loan requirements that led to the recession)
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Oh is this one of those things where the conservative Republicans argue with the Liberal Democrats over who fucked up worse cause if it is i wanna change the subject to gay rights
 
Matlock said:
Oh is this one of those things where the conservative Republicans argue with the Liberal Democrats
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wait, isn't that practically everything?

Why do you think Congress doesn't do anything? Because the nation is so divided.

George Washington had the right idea, not joining a party. I recently read a comment on a political site where the commenter suggested that the US would be better if it switched to a system with more than two main parties, similar to Rome.

Looking at how split the Republican base is now between moderates who support Romney and conservatives who support Santorum, I would personally want to see how our country worked if we split into a three-party system: Conservatives, Moderates, and Liberals.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Matlock said:
Oh is this one of those things where the conservative Republicans argue with the Liberal Democrats
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wait, isn't that practically everything?

Why do you think Congress doesn't do anything? Because the nation is so divided.

George Washington had the right idea, not joining a party. I recently read a comment on a political site where the commenter suggested that the US would be better if it switched to a system with more than two main parties, similar to Rome.

Looking at how split the Republican base is now between moderates who support Romney and conservatives who support Santorum, I would personally want to see how our country worked if we split into a three-party system: Conservatives, Moderates, and Liberals.
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Liberals would win (simply cause their are more liberals than conservatives) and the gays would have the right to marry and i would be happy than...well the conservatives would rebel do to fake rumors like the war on religion (because forcing churchs to give children to gay people so wrong) and how liberals are trying to take their guns away (yeah making sure you don't have a firearm in a school =/= taking away guns) and well shit would go down
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Matlock said:
Oh is this one of those things where the conservative Republicans argue with the Liberal Democrats
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Looking at how split the Republican base is now between moderates who support Romney and conservatives who support Santorum, I would personally want to see how our country worked if we split into a three-party system: Conservatives, Moderates, and Liberals.
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That doesn't factor in the conservative and moderate liberals, the liberal and moderate conservatives, or the liberal and conservative moderates.
 
Mario4Ever said:
Dr. Javelin said:
Nosferatu Man said:
Abraham "Vampire Hunter" Lincoln
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YES

...wait, why exactly is that book becoming popular all of a sudden
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A movie's being made.
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Ooooohhhh, that makes sense.

I honestly did not know that.
Matlock said:
Liberals would win (simply cause their are more liberals than conservatives) and the gays would have the right to marry and i would be happy than...well the conservatives would rebel do to fake rumors like the war on religion (because forcing churchs to give children to gay people so wrong) and how liberals are trying to take their guns away (yeah making sure you don't have a firearm in a school =/= taking away guns) and well *bleep* would go down
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They will never take away our right to bear arms! Here in the South, we lurve guns.

A friend of mine actually made a hypothetical country for one of his classes. It was a sort of modern day CSA, created when China attacked the US but the South was able to repulse them thanks to Second Amendment users (he posted a picture of a redneck).

And you can't really check the polls as to how many liberals there are as opposed to conservatives, because the media is either liberal (most of it) or horribly conservative (the infamous FOX news comes to mind).

Mario4Ever said:
That doesn't factor in the conservative and moderate liberals, the liberal and moderate conservatives, or the liberal and conservative moderates.
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how can you be a conservative liberal

does not compute
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Matlock said:
Liberals would win (simply cause their are more liberals than conservatives) and the gays would have the right to marry and i would be happy than...well the conservatives would rebel do to fake rumors like the war on religion (because forcing churchs to give children to gay people so wrong) and how liberals are trying to take their guns away (yeah making sure you don't have a firearm in a school =/= taking away guns) and well *bleep* would go down
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They will never take away our right to bear arms! Here in the South, we lurve guns.

A friend of mine actually made a hypothetical country for one of his classes. It was a sort of modern day CSA, created when China attacked the US but the South was able to repulse them thanks to Second Amendment users (he posted a picture of a redneck).

And you can't really check the polls as to how many liberals there are as opposed to conservatives, because the media is either liberal (most of it) or horribly conservative (the infamous FOX news comes to mind).
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I'm just saying that there are more registered Democrats than republicans as well as the fact that most scientists are liberal what with there supporting of Evolution and Global Warming
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Mario4Ever said:
That doesn't factor in the conservative and moderate liberals, the liberal and moderate conservatives, or the liberal and conservative moderates.
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how can you be a conservative liberal

does not compute
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Most people can't be categorized as liberals or conservatives in all cases. For example, someone may be liberal when it comes to policies concerning social issues but conservative when it comes to policies concerning the economy.
 
Mario4Ever said:
Dr. Javelin said:
Mario4Ever said:
That doesn't factor in the conservative and moderate liberals, the liberal and moderate conservatives, or the liberal and conservative moderates.
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how can you be a conservative liberal

does not compute
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Most people can't be categorized as liberals or conservatives in all cases. For example, someone may be liberal when it comes to policies concerning social issues but conservative when it comes to policies concerning the economy.
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I'm one hundred percent liberal when it comes to social issues
 
I like Polk simply because he did everything he promised he would.

Can't stand Buchanan. He was the worst of all.
 
hey wait

I forgot the crucial fourth party

The SOCIALIST PARTY YEAH

My AP World History teacher made a diagram that described the changes in Europe leading up to World War I.


^
Conservative (Monarchy - Russia pre-revolution)
.
Moderate (Parliamentary Monarchy - England)
.
Liberal
V

Socialism (in effect, what liberalism eventually leads to)

Mario4Ever said:
Most people can't be categorized as liberals or conservatives in all cases. For example, someone may be liberal when it comes to policies concerning social issues but conservative when it comes to policies concerning the economy.
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Okay, a three-party system wouldn't work.

So now we make enough parties to cater to general desires and go with that, I guess.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
hey wait

I forgot the crucial fourth party

The SOCIALIST PARTY YEAH

My AP World History teacher made a diagram that described the changes in Europe leading up to World War I.


^
Conservative (Monarchy - Russia pre-revolution)
.
Moderate (Parliamentary Monarchy - England)
.
Liberal
V

Socialism (in effect, what liberalism eventually leads to)
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If that's what it takes to give gay people equal rights than so be it
Sharks Territory said:
I like Polk simply because he did everything he promised he would.
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Yeah that whole war with Mexico over there land was awesome right
 
I think it helps that I don't view issues as potentially messy.
 
Well on one hand it is technically a human life but on the other hand a murderer is also a human...
 
Odd, considering that the common argument against abortion is that it is the murder of a fetus.
 
Indeed but it's ok because he killed people bull shit he's still a human being
 
Matlock said:
Indeed but it's ok because he killed people bull shit he's still a human being
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I only have two issues with the death penalty.

1. It's inefficient.

2. Murder is illegal, but murder mandated by the state is not. WTF?
 
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