Muammar Gaddafi - Dead

Mario4Ever said:
All right, Guildenstern. We get it. You disagree with me. No one gives a fuck anymore other than you.
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Actually, I'm sure a lot of us still think your opinion is absolutely disgraceful. It's just that Ninji's already covered our points, so it's pretty redundant for us to reiterate them or simply say "I agree".
 
It's not even that. Many people have said that your thoughts were absolutely horrid; you apparently just haven't paid enough attention to notice. I was actually given this topic multiple times because so many people were disgusted by your selfishness, and they wanted me to give you a verbal beating.

I'm attacking you directly because you deserve it. Simple as that. Does it make me a dick? Yes. Does it make me wrong? No. I'm being blunt, I'm not incorrect simply for the fact that I'm saying exactly what I mean.




Like I said, I know you won't magically change your opinion because the big bad meanie on the internet yelled at you. But maybe I'll make you think with this. Maybe, for just a second, you'll think that you're being selfish. That your disregard for human life that you don't know personally isn't necessarily right. That, perhaps, you might be wrong. Because you really are, man. You really are.
 
Mario4Ever said:
All right, Guildenstern. We get it. You disagree with me. No one gives a fuck anymore other than you
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I still think you're wrong it's just that Ninji has such a way with words.
 
A rather fitting image for this thread.

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Rosencrantz said:
It's not even that. Many people have said that your thoughts were absolutely horrid; you apparently just haven't paid enough attention to notice. I was actually given this topic multiple times because so many people were disgusted by your selfishness, and they wanted me to give you a verbal beating.

I'm attacking you directly because you deserve it. Simple as that. Does it make me a *bleep*? Yes. Does it make me wrong? No. I'm being blunt, I'm not incorrect simply for the fact that I'm saying exactly what I mean.




Like I said, I know you won't magically change your opinion because the big bad meanie on the internet yelled at you. But maybe I'll make you think with this. Maybe, for just a second, you'll think that you're being selfish. That your disregard for human life that you don't know personally isn't necessarily right. That, perhaps, you might be wrong. Because you really are, man. You really are.
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I'm perfectly aware that I'm being selfish. Then again, everyone is selfish to varying degrees. I don't think in terms of right and wrong (only in terms of legality, so I condemn Gadhafi solely on that basis). The fact is, everything we say is biased, and I don't like to impart further personal bias on others' actions or behavior. It's certainly a possibility that I am incorrect, since I said before that I am not infallible, but the same holds true for you (though as a general observation, people, including myself, tend to find it easier to determine the flaws in others' opinions than to determine the flaws in their own). Because there is no objective standard of right and wrong (e.g. one on which everyone can (not should) agree), your opinion of my opinion extends no farther than your personal convictions.

I did not post on this thread with the intention of offending anyone, but I'm not going to apologize on behalf of the people that got offended. Does that mean I don't care about others' feelings? No, but offending people is something that we are all unable to avoid, as someone, somewhere, at some point in time is going to get offended by something one says regardless of whether the intent is there or not, so why obsess over it? I knew what I had to say would most likely be unpopular, but then, popularity isn't really something with which I've ever been concerned, not when it involves being silent or modifying my speech to come across as "politically correct" when I am not (as an aside, people who live their lives based on others' opinions of them are weak-willed (not directed to anyone here)), something I must applaud you for not doing. Like I also said before, you don't have to agree with or respect my opinion, and the same is true from my end. If, after all this, you still feel the need to verbally "beat" me, go right ahead, no one's stopping you, but this isn't a bout, so don't expect either of us to emerge "victorious."
 

Okay seriously. If anyone has gall to defend Hitler, Stalin and Gadhafi, they better have a damn good reason besides "lol the government is brainwashing you" or "lol i have the right to my own opinion." (The latter of which is what I see being repeated over and over, except in wall-of-text form.)
 
Mario4Ever said:
blah blah blah philosophical bullshit blah blah blah fallacies blah blah blah complete cynicism to extreme measures blah blah blah
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There, I said everything you said in less than a line. Certainly didn't take 2 giant paragraphs to get your non-existent point across, huh?

You can't actually justify what you say, so you're going to try to divert things with the most obscure, vague concepts (not even thoughts) in a pitiful attempt to defend yourself. I'm done with this. If you haven't learned anything yet, you won't learn anything more from a continued discussion. If you really need a summary, just grow up is what I'm saying.
 
Rosencrantz said:
Mario4Ever said:
blah blah blah philosophical *bleep* blah blah blah fallacies blah blah blah complete cynicism to extreme measures blah blah blah
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There, I said everything you said in less than a line. Certainly didn't take 2 giant paragraphs to get your non-existent point across, huh?

You can't actually justify what you say, so you're going to try to divert things with the most obscure, vague concepts (not even thoughts) in a pitiful attempt to defend yourself. I'm done with this. If you haven't learned anything yet, you won't learn anything more from a continued discussion. If you really need a summary, just grow up is what I'm saying.
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"Okay seriously. If anyone has gall to defend Hitler, Stalin and Gadhafi, they better have a damn good reason besides "lol the government is brainwashing you" or "lol i have the right to my own opinion." (The latter of which is what I see being repeated over and over, except in wall-of-text form.)"

I am not defending them. All I said in my OP is that I wasn't condemning them. I don't judge their actions according to my lifestyle (anything I disagree with is neither right nor wrong). They broke the law, and that's as far as my acknowledgement of them goes.

As for Rosencrantz, grow up? I'm sorry, but maturity =/= being all lovey-dovey toward mankind or automatically thinking mass murderers being sentenced to death is justified because of the worth assigned to humans as humans (to Remelia, I'm not sure if misanthropic, nihilistic viewpoints are supposed to fade at 16, since I developed mine around that time). I hope you've enjoyed trying to impart this "lesson in humility," as I'm sure it was a pleasure for everyone to read this thread.
 
Mario4Ever said:
It certainly doesn't reflect poorly on me, as much as you would like it to,
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It actually does, bro.

Mario4Ever said:
I hope you've enjoyed trying to impart this "lesson in humility," as I'm sure it was a pleasure for everyone to read this thread.
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It was pleasant- your over-the-top views are absolutely hilarious, and I needed a good laugh.

Mario4Ever said:
I don't think in terms of right and wrong (only in terms of legality, so I condemn Gadhafi solely on that basis).
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My head just exploded.
 
Mario4Ever said:
to Remelia, I'm not sure if misanthropic, nihilistic viewpoints are supposed to fade at 16, since I developed mine around that time
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THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. What kind of horrible person are you, thinking that it's cool to hate everyone?

Tact, humility and solidarity are three massively important things you lack, mate, and it's disturbing that you seem to have no interest in possessing any of them. You're bordering sociopathic here, dude. We're not being LOVEY-DOVEY SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS, we're displaying empathy towards people who have suffered hardships, losses and tragedy under a harsh dictator. How could you possibly fail to realize how it's offensive to say these people don't matter because of some unrealistic, impractical philosophical bullshit? (the sort that's only ever spouted out unironically by emo teenagers who think they're the new Nietzsche)
 
Right, so, can I be the one to ban him? Just want to abuse my power a little bit. It's not that bad. Just a little silencing. Just clearing the troll.

So, come on, let me do it. You know you'll say good riddance.

Scarecrow von Steuben said:
It was pleasant- your over-the-top views are absolutely hilarious, and I needed a good laugh.
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It's like he's every 14 year old baked into one big pie of annoying. It's absolutely surreal.
 
Rosencrantz said:
Right, so, can I be the one to ban him? Just want to abuse my power a little bit. It's not that bad. Just a little silencing. Just clearing the troll.
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Hey you can't ban people. Last time I checked you demoted yourself after your 5th retirement.
 
Remilia Bloody Scarlet said:
Mario4Ever said:
to Remelia, I'm not sure if misanthropic, nihilistic viewpoints are supposed to fade at 16, since I developed mine around that time
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THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. What kind of horrible person are you, thinking that it's cool to hate everyone?

Tact, humility and solidarity are three massively important things you lack, mate, and it's disturbing that you seem to have no interest in possessing any of them. You're bordering sociopathic here, dude. We're not being LOVEY-DOVEY SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS, we're displaying empathy towards people who have suffered hardships, losses and tragedy under a harsh dictator. How could you possibly fail to realize how it's offensive to say these people don't matter because of some unrealistic, impractical philosophical *bleep*? (the sort that's only ever spouted out unironically by emo teenagers who think they're the new Nietzsche)
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This'll be my last post on this thread. I've never tried to be "cool," and I don't hate everyone. I'm not going to waste my breath and defend myself. Your criticisms are valid. I've got nothing but the utmost respect for you and everyone else here regardless of the events of this thread. I've never wanted to see the world as a desolate hell-hole in which members of the species slaughter one another over ideological differences, resources, and other such shit, but the fact remains that I do. I'm not saying the Libyans deserved their fate, but I am physically incapable of judging a man in whose life I was not involved, as am I incapable of empathizing with people in a situation I have never experienced, as much as I want to. How you decide to receive these words is your decision, but I never meant you all any harm.
 
I have to say that you end up sounding a bit like a guy who was here a few months back, Mario4Ever.

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I am also entitled to my opinions and, like it or not, can express them freely.
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Wow this douchebag is trying to use the Constitution to continue yelling!

Though actually I think I just dropped that topic or whatever, but still.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
I have to say that you end up sounding a bit like a guy who was here a few months back, Mario4Ever.

[quote author=Dr. Javelin]
I am also entitled to my opinions and, like it or not, can express them freely.
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Wow this douchebag is trying to use the Constitution to continue yelling!

Though actually I think I just dropped that topic or whatever, but still.
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Wow- the two most hated users on the forum, together in one place! One time only! Get your tickets now, folks!
 
Scarecrow von Steuben said:
Dr. Javelin said:
I have to say that you end up sounding a bit like a guy who was here a few months back, Mario4Ever.

[quote author=Dr. Javelin]
I am also entitled to my opinions and, like it or not, can express them freely.
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Wow this douchebag is trying to use the Constitution to continue yelling!

Though actually I think I just dropped that topic or whatever, but still.
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Wow- the two most hated users on the forum, together in one place! One time only! Get your tickets now, folks!
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I don't hate Javelin--he's one of my fave users on here.
 
We are treading on slippery slope water. Although the emo opinion that has been expressed is from the pit of Hell, should everyone ad hominem attack someone for strongly disagreeing with his or her opinion? The first amendment to this US Constitution of ours was put into place to protect impolite, unpopular speech. Why? Because polite and popular speech does not need to be constitutionally protected!

I mean, what's next? Will people want you banned next if you are a conservative next? If you are a liberal? If you are a Catholic? If you are a Jew? If you are a Mohametan? Animist, whatever? If you are a Fascist? If you are a Communist? If you are a Nazi? If you are a Libertarian? I don't think other countries have a concept of free speech, freedom of speech I think is the greatest thing about America. Socialist England for example is throwing three year olds in prison for hate speech!!! The great nation, England, that once ruled most of the entire world, the now lost British Empire. Lost because of two needless world wars in the 20th century. Just always remember: The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
 
Mason said:
Marwikedor said:
England for example is throwing three year olds in prison
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Source? Don't you dare ignore me. Source please.
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Why? Why do you need a source? Would I say it if it wasn't so? If you insiste, here's a source about it http://www.gowilkes.com/voice/view/?msg=98719&h=20110917192939
 
Marwikedor said:
England for example is throwing three year olds in prison
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Excuse me, but what the flying fuck are you talking about. You don't know shit about what happens here, and I've never heard of that. Don't make out my country to be three-year-old-jailing scumbags, and whatever you do, judging by the thread, don't you fucking dare compare anyone here to Gaddafi. You're being spoon-fed by the media, until you're plump and reading for the slaughterhouse.

That so-called source, like most of your argument, is also a load of bullshit. They're not arresting them, they're just taking down shit that happens. Again, don't fucking think about bringing the United Kingdom into this.

EDIT: Oh, and I'm not bored enough to see what your P.O.V. on the Gadaffi side is, but what is your P.O.V.?
 
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