Thunder Cloud

Snowstalker

Snowstalker
Why are they bringing it back? Absolutely nobody thought it was a good idea (at least things like the Blue Shell are polarizing), and frankly it seems that Mario Kart is getting more and more punishing for people who happen to be better. There's the element of chance, and then there's this.
 
Nintendo can be stupid sometimes.
 
Snowstalker said:
Why are they bringing it back? Absolutely nobody thought it was a good idea (at least things like the Blue Shell are polarizing), and frankly it seems that Mario Kart is getting more and more punishing for people who happen to be better. There's the element of chance, and then there's this.

I'm sure somebody thought it was a good addition. Anyways, I thought it just made the game more hectic to play. The way the items were chosen was (in my opinion) the culprit behind the punishing gameplay. Of course, it's been a few years since I've played, so I don't remember everything about the game.
 
I like it, it make's the game more challenging.
 
New Super Yoshi said:
I like it, it make's the game more challenging.

There's a difference between genuine challenge and simply punishing people for not sucking. Mario Kart has gone from the former to the latter. It was moving that way in DD, got a bit better in DS, and then MKW utterly destroyed the idea of skill.

But did Nintendo really not listen to the reception on the new concepts?
 
Snowstalker said:
New Super Yoshi said:
I like it, it make's the game more challenging.

There's a difference between genuine challenge and simply punishing people for not sucking. Mario Kart has gone from the former to the latter. It was moving that way in DD, got a bit better in DS, and then MKW utterly destroyed the idea of skill.

But did Nintendo really not listen to the reception on the new concepts?
Well probably not.
 
Wait. Am I missing something here? Why is it punishing to better players? If you're a "better player," you would probably be in first or second most of the time, where you don't typically receive a Thunder Cloud. When I get it, I'm usually in the middle places, like 4th-7th; there's always people to pass it on to.
 
That's the problem. If I may speak on the behalf of the OP, the item helps those players in lower positions (which you can assume are less skillful) and makes it easier for them to catch up. Players in higher positions therefore have to fight harder in order to keep their place.
 
Leonyx said:
That's the problem. If I may speak on the behalf of the OP, the item helps those players in lower positions (which you can assume are less skillful) and makes it easier for them to catch up. Players in higher positions therefore have to fight harder in order to keep their place.
Yeah, you will only get good items if your in a low position.
 
I hate when you're doing a 2-player race and you're about to catch up to the other person and you get a thunder cloud, which makes you lose.